SME No longer to print Mr Simple Version A……
December 17, 2011 at 2:45 PM | Posted in 5th jib (Album), Albums, ELF, Mod Post/Compilation Posts, News/Rumors, Pictures/Videos, Wonderboys | 227 Comments
A Korean ELF went to visit a Hottracks store late in November. She said that one of the employee’s computers was on, and the screen revealed Mr. Simple Version A stocks within every Hottracks store. Here’s what it read:
Gangnam: 14 albums
Jamsil: 9 albums
Anyang: 10 albums
Changwon: 1 albums
Jeonju: 5 albums
Bundang: 11 albums
Busan: 18 albums
Mokdong: 3 albums
Cheonan: 8 albums
Centum City: 19 albums
Seongnam: 3 albums
Yeongdeongpo: 24 albums
Sooyoo: 1 albums
Daegu: 2 albumsShe said that she was greatly surprised with how low the stocks were, and after finding out about the recent news ofSM’s decision to no longer print Mr. Simple Version A, she became shocked. SM’s excuse was that it was “too difficult to print”. This is an outrageous excuse, and no entertainment company simply stops printing their artist’s albums due to “difficulties”.
Furthermore, Super Junior has sold 480,000 albums total. Super Junior openly expressed that they wanted to sell 500,000 albums. SM deciding to suddenly stop printing the group’s albums keeps them from reaching this goal. The boys are also going into a two year hiatus, and the future is of course unpredictable… Leeteuk even said that the MAMA award could possibly be Super Junior’s last award, resulting with the rest of the group in tears—even Super Junior questions how long their popularity will last. SM is not helping with this matter.
SM obviously has other intentions as to why they won’t print Mr. Simple Version A albums anymore. These are for reasons unknown; but I think we have enough evidence to conclude that something is wrong. An entertainment treats their artists right, be it one artist under their label or fifty. It isn’t a competition about who gets better treatment. It’s about an entertainment becoming ridiculous and unjust.
Since November, there have been barely any Mr. Simple Version A albums in stores all over South Korea. There’s about a total of 100 throughout the entire nation. They might all be gone now. There are ELF who probably willnever be able to buy a Mr. Simple album because of this.
The full story is HERE, written in hangul by SJ-Market.
I would probably raid SMTOWN’s facebook page and ask for the true reason as to why SM decided to stop printing Mr. Simple Version A albums. Version A was our key to winning the Golden Disk… no, not even that… It was the main album. And it’s only been four months since SM started to reproduce this album! Stores all over South Korea even have Super Junior-05 albums! SM decided to use the Mr. Simple album design and cover, it was their decision. So it is their price to pay.
It is their job to reprint albums whether they like it or not. They can’t simply stop because it’s “too hard on them”. The fans demand it. No SM, this isn’t about you. This is about what your customers want and what your artists need. We won’t accept selfishness, greed, and whatever else your company is playing at. We won’t go down without a fight.
As a K-ELF always says, “이렇게 쉽게 포기한다고 누가그래?”…”Who said we would give up this easily?” Because we won’t.
Credit: SJ-MARKET <————— THE MOST LEGIT SITE EVER and guixien @ tumblr
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SMe is getting unbelievable each day!
can’t they learn from their past mistake????
Comment by XIE_XIE— December 17, 2011 #
I am so pissed right now I want to cry
I feel that everything we do is no longer being useful…
Frustration is not even close to what every ELF must be feeling.. Damn you SM!!
Comment by Laura ☆ (@em_brown)— December 17, 2011 #
I agree with what you say. This is not the first time we find out that SME is not being fair to SJ. At first is really frustration, thinking about how can they treat them like this. But now, it’s like totally disappointed. This is their last time before they go for hiatus, can’t they just play it fair?
Comment by cshuhui90— December 17, 2011 #
Yeah… that’s how it is, pure disappointment T_T
I can’t even think of an only reason why they would do this to Super Junior. They say SME is biased… but this is going too far, don’t you think? It’s like a child getting tired of a toy.
And I don’t want to believe SM got tired of them, because they can’t be done yet!They have proved their success every single time! Mr. Simple has been selling like crazy! And the most important thing, the fans, we are not tired yet… Why this then?
I don’t understand SME, and just thinking about what the boys would feel… this is hurting too much D:
Comment by Laura ☆ (@em_brown)— December 17, 2011 #
i don’t understand this…why should sme stop it,when it is selling over a 480,000 times…? stupid sment!! >.<
Comment by Lina Eats Cookies— December 18, 2011 #
So, this is their new way? Smart SM. Tsk, tsk.
Comment by cynicalmadhatter— December 17, 2011 #
Hyaa wht the Fuck of them
..
ELF HWAITING WE MUST GET GDA ..
*make it be SPECIAL present for SUJU
Comment by Ji ae— December 17, 2011 #
yes, w willsuccess for GDA.but why does the rate go down now? i vote it. but it is down
Comment by Ika— December 17, 2011 #
*sigh*
WHY SMENT?! aish..
this sucks big time, gosh.
this just only shows how biased you are, ELFs all over the world will get angry.
Seriously, ELFs will burn that company if this keeps on going.
i truly hope and wish for Super Junior to win GDA!
coz they DESERVE to get that award.
Comment by jerlyn_sjbbshinee— December 17, 2011 #
I’ll be in the first line to burn SME building…
Comment by forever13— December 17, 2011 #
Yeah…count me in!!!I wanna burn LSM too…
Comment by ELF forever!!!— December 18, 2011 #
me too!!
Comment by vtonkz— December 18, 2011 #
yeah me too please!
Comment by Lina Eats Cookies— December 18, 2011 #
ME TOO!!!
Comment by LISA— December 18, 2011 #
you are fools. I know.. no bashing…but seriously guys.. this is nothing but foolish… immature…
Comment by nn— December 18, 2011 #
…also shouldn’t bash…because that is immature as well.. but I am lost for words here.
Comment by nn— December 18, 2011 #
NOOOO.. I didn’t get to collect them all.. still have 2 missing.. TT^TT Sment you playing DIRTY.. how dare you… Being an international FAN is not cheap we have to pay double.. we can’t get them all at once.. grrr..
Comment by 낸시(Nancy) ♡ (@SkyJunior203)— December 17, 2011 #
Aw hell NO!!
Sment YOU are crossing the line!!!
Don’t think that fans will let it go that easily, YOU WILL PAY! >:C
Comment by Smartassprince— December 17, 2011 #
yes SMe really biased!!! this is the real prove!!! damn this is our last change to give suju GDA!!!! before teuk & yesung enlist!!!
Comment by VhaHeeHee— December 17, 2011 #
..this warnings from two months ago .. SM’s new play started. let’s see what’s 2011′s script…
Comment by Jung hyun ah (@mybreath_13)— December 17, 2011 #
this is seriously too much…. i haven’t collected all 10 covers yet. i really want to burn that company down.. -__-
Comment by 지켜줄게 슈퍼주니어 (@__shfly1106)— December 17, 2011 #
yeah me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1owh i reallly reallly 10000xxxx wants to burn down that stupid suck whatever company!!!!!!!!!!!!its rly stupid unreasonable absurd and absolutely mindless!!!!!!!!!!i feels like hoping suju to follow jyj step!!!!!!!!!as long as uri oppas stay together!they can rules the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!not with those sm!argggggghhhh this is rly against human right and our right as an elf!who still wanna buy the album..because snsd they are still producing it and selling them buckles cheaper n whatsoever method they could use as long it was sold!
Comment by hyurura— December 17, 2011 #
Fuck SM >O<
Comment by Lô (@VELF_Milo)— December 17, 2011 #
Firstly get this straight, I love these boys to bits.
But seriously what’s ELF gonna do about this? It’s not like K-ELF can just rock up at Lee Soo Man’s office and be like “hey bitch print more Mr. Simples” NO. And tbh when ELF say they’re gonna “fight” I’m just like…..how so? Even if they do “fight”, how constructive it is gonna be then?
Comment by Laureenie— December 17, 2011 #
you cant imagine how powerful k-elf could be. anyway, thats how SJ is made in the first place. through their fight with SM.
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
That’s right! I remember about the stockholder case years ago.
Comment by ColoursForYou— December 17, 2011 #
This is wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong! SM, you don’t want to see ELF unite and boycott you. You’re asking for it. Your asking for trouble.. ><
Comment by Adriana— December 17, 2011 #
They are such an #$%^&*, that SM. I still haven’t buy version A you idiot SM!
Comment by Salimah Nadiah (@SalimahSakura)— December 17, 2011 #
im really hating them day by day!!!! they are really not helping sj!!!!
Comment by emjhei21— December 17, 2011 #
I think There’s many Elf Who not yet buy this album!!..
and sure that they still wanna buy this
SMENT ur fuckers!!!!..
Comment by Ji ae— December 17, 2011 #
Excuse me for my language but damn you SME!!!!Your evilness knows no bounds!!!!!
Comment by Lily— December 17, 2011 #
Seems like I won’t be able to buy the CD. Too bad T_T
Comment by HeechulHongki Biased (@HeeOngki)— December 17, 2011 #
aiissshhh!! i really don’t know what to say right now.. they are just so unfair.. I’m really angry at SME .. gawd! why are they doing this instead of supporting their artists. ?!!?
Comment by shenruz (@_irshELF)— December 17, 2011 #
dirty trick again???? SME u are really brain sick!!! what do u want? this is too ridiculous TT______________________________TT
Comment by Azhy— December 17, 2011 #
isn’t it harder to get the ‘box’ done (that group’s album)? -.-
Comment by eeling10EelingL— December 17, 2011 #
I’m so f*cking pissed right now. SM, what the heck is wrong with u??? Die!!! I mean really?!!? This is soooo unfair… stupid f*ckers -__-
Comment by Tessa— December 17, 2011 #
This was unexpected, but there may be a reason besides GDA (I know everyone is thinking in that right now). Let’s hope for a good explanation from them and perhaps this time they will say the true and be honest in that matter. I have something in mind and is not related to GDA, perhaps I’m wrong…SM time to make your move and quickly before not only ELF but also others fanclubs start going bersek against you.
Comment by Asagi (@xx_Asagi_xx)— December 17, 2011 #
So why this makes many ELF angry? Well because of GDA most of all and because Ver.A is the album that will always be counted in for the award. Without Ver. A available, there is still doubt if Ver. B and C will be take into account, but apparently Ver.C is.
Now we are facing a problem, if version A isn’t available then it’s time to focus in other versions, most of all in Ver.C.
But what to do about Ver.A? Well we can start by organising ourselves and start a petition with good arguments. One argument that can work is that Ver.A presents 10 different covers and many ELF are looking to collect all the covers. There is no doubt of SJ popularity overseas (Facebook numbers can help as an indicator) and many i-ELF want to collect all the covers. Nevertheless they can only do this little by little due to shiping price. Now with the year end holidays many were looking foward to buy 1 or 2 or more of this Ver.A covers. that’s why demand can be specialy high in this period of the year.
So please instead of ranting and hating let’s focus all our energy in finding a proper solution to convince SM to continue printing Ver.A.
My fellow ELF hate will not lead us anywhere. It’s time to think STRAIGHT and not let’s us take a path lead by FEAR.
Comment by Asagi (@xx_Asagi_xx)— December 17, 2011 #
I so agree with you. I hope all of us work together to give what SJ wants. Hating is not what they want to see us do. We will show what we can do, in the right way! Fighting! :’)
Comment by Pw— December 18, 2011 #
the last picture shows the chart for the store. like best sellers etc.
Comment by chocolatte— December 17, 2011 #
This is obvious … I didn’t expect anything, now I am expectiting the negative over nothing.
Many of you asked why I am saying GDA and such are worthless, that the music business in korea is one of the scariest, etc….well here you go..this is one of those perfect examples…
creditbilitly? as if.
Sment isn’t the only one pulling those things….but yeah that doesn’t make it any better.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
also…I agree on what Asagi is saying right above: there may be a reason, it may even be a positive one. But…actually: this way or anyother…what is done is simply taking influence on the market and awards..which means: reason or not…it’s not exactly what should be done….
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
also yes: money making machine… for whatever reason: money surly will be involved.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
im trying to be reasonable with SME but this…
this is too much. demmit.
Comment by andyelaiza— December 17, 2011 #
I seriously donnow to fight SMEnt or not.Bcos they produced SuJu.And I’M AFRAID IF SOMEHOW THEY KNEW WE AGAINST THEM THEY WILL MAKE OUR OPPA…hurt?
omg,thinking abt this make me cry.I sriously donnow why this is happening.
Comment by FaRaH— December 17, 2011 #
My thoughts exactly.. I fear if we try anything SM will do something to our guys or threaten them.. Or if SM were to let them go, I’m afraid SM will pull strings/threaten/bribe other companies to not sign SJ… ㅠ.ㅠ
Comment by Adriana— December 17, 2011 #
And I didn’t even got one. SME is really …I can’t use an word that won’t cuss at them. If our boys don’t win GDA this year, I don’t think we’ll be surprised anymore. This is pure —-.
Comment by Too Serious Nicoleta— December 17, 2011 #
Darn, I was (still am) saving so hard to buy a copy of Hyuk’s
and now this? Please tell me this isn’t true. SM, the demand is still there. Please reconsider.
Comment by Emelia— December 17, 2011 #
Have you checked eBay? I couldn’t find Min’s cover, but I found it on there. I’m trying to get at least two/three more albums. I really wanted to get them all… :< I only have Min and Teukie's… not counting the other versions of Mr. Simple. But OF COURSE those are counting towards the GDA or albums sales if I understand correctly… :<
Comment by EmmKays— December 17, 2011 #
SEE ELFs,
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO WORK HARD AN VOTE ON KPOPWAVE, SUJU MUST WIN THE GDA THIS YEAR TO PROVE TO SM THAT THEY ARE STRONGER THAN THAT AND THAT THEY CAN PULL TROUGH EVERYTHING WITH THE HELP OF ELF!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Smartassprince— December 17, 2011 #
Why they do this to SJ T_T
Comment by ELF4EVER$SJ— December 17, 2011 #
SM has never officially stated that they will stop producing Version A. The sources for this article are kinda iffy.
Yes… Ver A has been out of stock in most Korean stores since the THIRD WEEK it was released.
There could be many reasons for this. I don’t think that SM is purposely trying to screw SJ over or anything. SM is biased towards only one thing: MONEY!
My speculation: there a lot of ver B and ver C still available in certain stores and SM doesn’t want those returned because that would be a waste of their money. Therefore, they are hoping ELF will buy those versions before restocking ver A.
Also… there are still Version A available at Lee’s Music and other Korean stores (Hot Tracks is only one store. The most popular branch, but still only one brand.) There are also Version A available through YesAsia KPOPTOWN and DVD Heaven.
If ELF really want to buy Version A, then they can find a way.
I am unsure as to why this rumor about SM not restocking ver A is just now becoming controversial. Version A has NEVER been properly stocked. Even Sungmin couldn’t find any at the Hot Tracks store he went to months ago.
The absence of ver A has been in news articles in Korea. That is why it is such a huge deal that SM has sold so many albums.
You see… The reason our Gaon numbers match our Hanteo numbers more accurately than most other groups’ is because Hanteo measures actual sales from store counters while Gaon measures shipments from distributors to stores.
Seeing as stores are can’t seem to keep Ver A (and possibly other versions) in stock, it makes sense that SJ has such high Hanteo numbers.
Instead of focusing on awards and proving things, we should take this as positive news as well. Stores can’t seem to keep SJ’s album in stock because it is actually selling!!!
Anyways… I know that many of you will not listen to what I am saying and will only let your anger towards SM fester, but please remember that SJ has a lot of respect for their company. We also need to think of their reputation. Let’s not act too rashly.
Comment by sujulojo— December 17, 2011 #
Actually well spoken.
Comment by uksujusid— December 17, 2011 #
i agree with you that there may be other contributing factors too.
Comment by Jiayi— December 17, 2011 #
but they’re really really cruel towards super junior…i cant accept it anymore…i’m really dissapointed to lee soman
Comment by azrELF— December 17, 2011 #
Lee Soo Man isn’t even in charge of SM anymore… and seriously… SJ treated quite well. Much better than TRAX, Zhang Li Yin, and J-Min. They are even treated better than TVXQ, Kangta, BoA, f(x), and SHINee this year.
It’s fine to be upset with the company because they don’t treat SJ as well as we want them to, but I think “cruel” is a little too strong of a word.
The one thing SM does that upsets me the most is not letting them rest more, but SJ wouldn’t really rest if they had they opportunity because they are all known as workaholics. And as has been seen by, both of SM’s top 2 groups is lacking rest this year.
It’s quite appropriate to rally and support SJ if their company is failing in providing the fans with what they want, but calling names is not the way to do it. A legitimate, well-thought-out argument launched through the right channels is how things should work.
Comment by sujulojo— December 17, 2011 #
pls remember that SJ is treated well bcoz of ELF. there’s no way they will neglect SJ if not for ELF’s money and unconditional love.
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
Yes… but that doesn’t mean that defaming their company will protect them.
It will only allow others to continue the bashing of SM artists (including SJ) as being under slave contracts.
I am not trying to say that ELF shouldn’t continue to passionately fight for SJ and support them with love and provision, but logic is needed instead of conspiracy theories based on rumors.
Comment by sujulojo— December 17, 2011 #
argh i so feel like killing someone to swallow your points! T_T
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
Lee sooman founded SM but he is not responsibile for SMent anymore. He still holds some shares, so he indeed is involved, but deffinitly the wrong person to accuse of all this.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
Actually Lee Soo Man is the one who was in charge of SJ’s production for 5jib and is EXTREMELY respected by SJ.
They love him.
We should never attack him personally even if he has wronged them. He is a human being too.
Instead, we should lodge our complaints at the company.
Comment by sujulojo— December 17, 2011 #
haha that’s what I am saying (more or less). So yeah.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
i thought the one who leaded SM now is Kim Young Min rite? if im not wrong .__.v
Comment by miyadongkey— December 18, 2011 #
about u saying that one of the reason maybe that there are too many ver B and ver C at stores, I don’t agree with u~ I have a friend who is in charge of ordering SJ’s albums in my country and months ago when ver B was released it took really really long time to receive ver B. I asked her why she said that her partner in Korea said that it’s because SM produced ver B so little and slowly =.=
And about money, yeah I agree with u SM is still a business and loves money and there is no way it refuses money by stop producing album~But have u ever thought about this? if they want some other groups to win illegally, they have to use either of these ways. No.1: use MONEY to buy the organizers. No.2: Stop producing album. U still lose money in either way. But losing money in producing album is more “legal” because we really can’t have any valid evidence, so SM can avoid all the criticism from us in the future~In short, we fans can’t do anything about it~
It may sound crazy but this is really what I think =.=
Comment by Linh.Hae— December 17, 2011 #
You said your friend couldn’t find ver B but from what I have heard, there are indeed plenty of ver C. And as we know… ver B or C has been online for a while as well.
Why would SM want a group to win illegally against another group that belongs to them. That would be counter-intuitive to spend money just so one of your own groups can win against another group of yours.
Your argument is full of the notion that SM is a company that cares about the happiness of one group over the happiness of another group with absolutely no care for profit.
Truthfully… winning GDA will change absolutely nothing for either — or SJ.
Everyone knows that both groups sold HUGE amounts of physical albums and have gained popularity around the world.
SJ and —- don’t even make most of their money from album sales. It is from concerts, merchandise and CFs (Korean for —-… international for SJ).
SM is not as invested in the fanwar between — and ELF as many of you all tend to think.
They want money…. money… and money…
Edited by: uksujusid … I don’t want other fandom names to be mentioned.
Paying off judges and stopping the production of albums will not gain them money at all… why would they do it?
Comment by sujulojo— December 17, 2011 #
agreed
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
god i want to do something i hate the fact i cant do anything i hate you sm but i love your artest
Comment by s.s— December 17, 2011 #
hmmm, agree..sounds logical…btw, imo u are very witty, just like our witty maknae.
Comment by g— December 17, 2011 #
keke thanks xD
I think we all need to be logical in order to find the best way to protect SJ.
Comment by sujulojo— December 17, 2011 #
are you going to comment more often? I think I will leave those comments to you then
Haha since I felt the last 3 month my comments have been becoming worse and worse. Your comment remindes me pretty much of how I used to write, so if you plan on commenting regulary I wll be happy. Haha this sounds like an old person wanting to pass on her work to the next generation… kekeke
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
LOL. i noticed u from ur old times. kekeke
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
haha nice to know x’D
Well I am still around, just working 12+ h/day nowadays, so yeah, kinda tired + less time
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
lol xD I don’t really comment on this site much… but I will if I find it is important.
Comment by sujulojo— December 17, 2011 #
I see
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
excuse me… if I’m not wrong, Sungmin said that he couldn’t find the album with his own face as the cover… it meant that the album was still available, but there’s no his own face as the cover… tell me if I’m wrong
Sorry for my bad english
Comment by ιαм α ισсκεя ♪— December 17, 2011 #
all in all, i just dont know what to believe anymore. not getting angry over this is inevitable. but not considering some of ur points is foolish too. but in my opinion, there’re some reasons why they would want —- to be ahead, IF, they really wish it to be so. firstly, —- is still young, and fresh, and we are all aware of that. therefore, their future is still bright. secondly, they’re —-. they dont have mandatory hiatus like our boys. so if they could constantly be on top, they would fool many that they’re good. (ok, really a bad assumption, but still, a point to be scrutinized.) thirdly, they were shaped from training years to be singers, unlike SJ, just some leftovers of —- (As claimed by SooMan himself). though i know SJ will stay around longer than —- (and i strongly believe in this), —- still get paid more than SJ (a fact we are well-aware of) and my point is, no matter how hard we tried, SJ is still being underrated by SM. so, if things like they claimed in the article really happen, you dont know how bad things will turn out for Sm. and i believe, it’s not possible if ELF from all over the world bash SM for this.
Edited by uksujusid. (no mention of other groups)
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
ops UKSUJUSID! sorryyyyy! my bad!
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
haha didn’t notice that there was such a rule as to not mention other groups. Kinda sad that we need such a rule, but I agree it’s a nice way to prevent fanwars (even if it’s obvious who — is).
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
yeah, and i believe if some of those ***** look at this, they would have known instantly whom we’re referring to, but yeah, no proof. just like the issue. no proof, assumptions, controversions, obsessions, blah, blah, blah. and this is my first time getting into something so deep, never thought of. bcoz of SJ, i know the world better. one word, Cruel.
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
well actually I think **** are not at fault. It’s not about Suju or an other group. Just like Suju, they are nothing more than a group making money for SMent. And just like Suju they are just like a chessman played by Sment for their own use (as in: making money, management etc). It’s business not a dream factory caring for other people’s dream, after all Sment mostly raises idols and not artists.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
yes, i agree. but to state some points, i just have to mention them. oh SM. cant u just let me have a calm night? poor me. i should be writing my thesis instead of thinking about SJ! but what to do? since i know them, my life’s turned upside down! but no regrets~ knowing them is the best thing in my life! ^^
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
haha I shouldn’t laugh at your last comment, but it’s just so…livly ^^ cute.
well yes it’s ok to mention them, since they are involved in one way or another.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
seriously i never even liked or being this obsessed with an artist before, not even local ones. but because of SJ, i just had to download 100GB of their videos (and its counting!) and fight for them with every k-pop fan i met! so tiring you know, but i just felt like… they need me, you know, like Japan needs the ultraman, i guess. T_T
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
it’s because Suju did something very well that in korean media plays an important role: emotions and using them to attach fans/viewers. Suju’s real talent is attaching people through emotions. They are basically one of the best idols in that aspect.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
referring to ur comment, i actually have that in mind too, and i kind of agree with that. but as u said this, “What their charm is is that they are very natural and human, with all the faults within our nature.”, this is what i meant about real, just thank u for expressing this very well. teukie is really like that, and that’s portrayed clearly in videos. even their honesty can be seen clearly by their action and words. for heavenly, i never thought of them as that, but i know many ELFs think of them like that. sometimes, poor teukie, being the leader, he just had to be that way, as what u stated in the comment. and its scary for me too. but u know, just pray that his somewhat-scary character could protect SJ till the end, and not otherwise. purely what i want from that kind of character, bcoz if it were to go negatively, it would be destructive, dont u think? lets just hope it will go towards a constructive way.
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
I am answering as a new comment way down. So scoll there
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
this is a reply to ur last reply. since its getting way too long, so i couldnt reply to that comment anymore. LOL. but i do agree with you. i was never attached to an idol this way. it feels like, you know, like i can laugh forever because of them. they are just.. real. and i think they really are, considering the path they had before they become SJ. but our SJ is really pitiful bcoz of some irresponsible people. and i really hate that. i hope SJ will stay together after this, no matter what happened, or how long they’re separated. *praying hard!
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
well “real”…they are…and they are not. ^^’ Haha I can’t really explain it in short, but hm…perhaps if you read for example that comment I wrote about leeteuk recently you will get what I mean (that one: http://sup3rjunior.wordpress.com/2011/12/05/sukira-ktr-with-eunhyuk-leeteuk-ending-eng-sub-from-111204/#comment-216313). It’s not that I think they are bad persons but rather that they are not as ‘heavenly’ as some Elf might think they are. What their charm is is that they are very natural and human, with all the faults within our nature.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
lol should have made this a whole new comment and just tell you to scroll all the way down, this column is getting to small ^^’
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
Glad to see someone thinking like me ^^ (Even if I still think there may be other reasons) . Wonder can I post your comment in tumblr? It may help to calm down some ELF
Comment by Asagi (@xx_Asagi_xx)— December 17, 2011 #
i agree with what you said .. we should think positively and try our best to help Super Junior
…
Comment by sooma13— December 17, 2011 #
I really hope you’re right! :] if so, then yes, ELF should be happy that the reason ver A is low in stock is because it’s been selling like hot pancakes and has such a high demand so loads of people are buying it. I just hope SM reproduces more so it wont completely go out of stock. So we can keep buying more and more
#Hopeful!
Comment by Adriana— December 17, 2011 #
WTF wa lao!
Comment by jasme— December 17, 2011 #
GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DON’T EVEN HAVE MY COPY YET D: WAE SM Waeeeee!?
Comment by sungrikyu— December 17, 2011 #
WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM FOR GDA AND SHOW TO SME THAT SUPER JUNIOR IS DEFINITELY WORTH IT
Comment by Jiayi— December 17, 2011 #
I guess what we should focus on is not why SME is taking such actions.
We should instead focus on voting for them on GDA!
Come on people, lets ask all our friends to vote for them.
Comment by Jiayi— December 17, 2011 #
This is not good, not good at all. I am totally disappointed with you SM. Can`t you see we put all our effort on buying their ver A???
I may not know the REAL reason why, but can i just say this is too much, too much for ONE person to take.
Comment by ddance_— December 17, 2011 #
The votes for GDA are dropping.
The gap between super junior and SNSD (second in position) was 95621 at 11pm KST
but now, at 12amKST, the gap is only 94592. the gap is decreasing.
lets do something about it!
Comment by Jiayi— December 17, 2011 #
THIS IS FUCKING ABSURD. DAMN YOU SME. WE ELFS SPENT A LOT OF LOVE AND EFFORT ON SUPER JUNIOR AND THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT THEM AND US? NOW SME IS REALLY TREATING SJ UNFAIRLY. WTF IS SO HARD TO PRINT ON 5JIB? IT’S JUST BASICALLY THE SAME ONLY BIGGER. IF IT’S THE COST I’M SURE IT’S NO PROBLEM BECAUSE ELFS WILL BUY NO MATTER WHAT PRICE.
I’M SO MAD RIGHT NOW. FIRST GDA MOVED THE DATE, YESASIA ONLY STARTED TO COUNT ON HANTEO LATE THIS YEAR AND NOW THIS. NOW I REALLY THINK THEY DON’T WANT SJ TO WIN D:
Pls let this just be a joke. I’m crying right now ;_;
Comment by nance (@dorkKyu)— December 17, 2011 #
I think I got too mad. I will just wait for confrmation
Comment by nance (@dorkKyu)— December 17, 2011 #
GUYS I’M THINKING ABOUT
what should we do? i live so far away from them that i feel so desperate…
all the votes even buying albums still i feel useless to them
i wonder what could we do?
what if we do some protests like commenting on their facebook or yt ar anything,,, anything that could express out feeling about this matter.
i’m so desperate, i keep tryin to be optimistic, but still…. i’m desperate ;_;
sorry
Comment by hyukella— December 17, 2011 #
i wonder if SJ know about this
Comment by hyukella— December 17, 2011 #
me too
Comment by Salimah Nadiah (@SalimahSakura)— December 17, 2011 #
i think ELF should do democracy at SM building to show our protest towards them..BECAUSE IT’S NOT REALLY REALLY UNFAIR !!!!GOSH,,,WHAT’S THE MATTER LEE SO MAN ???!!!! SUJU DOING REALLY WELL FOR YOUR COMPANY….WHY YOU DO THIS TO OUR BELOVED OPPAS HUH????!!!!SH*T !!!
Comment by azrELF— December 17, 2011 #
sometimes i understand what SME what want to do
they are so crazy and just think the profit… grrr
i cant say anything..
Comment by mehee_elf— December 17, 2011 #
That’s too much ! really.. it’s make me speechless –a
Comment by haevenz— December 17, 2011 #
Who thinks we should start sending Sment emails and spam them ??
Comment by Maham Khalid— December 17, 2011 #
Once Again….
We receive that f*cking unfair treatment from that f*cking company SM~
With the GDA album counting day postponed from November to December, the halt of printing ver A and the counting of “that group”‘s repacking album to their ver A, is it too obvious that SM is once again stealing GDA Daesang to give to “that group”?
F*ck u SM this year your trick is even dirtier than last year. U prevent our sale from increasing by not producing album so that if we don’t get Daesang, we won’t have any evidence to do anything against u~F*ck u f*ck u dirty b*tch~ =.=
SM, do u know that we DON’T need an award achieved by dirty trick~What we want is just 500k album for our boys, to fulfill our boys’ precious dream before they leave us for so so long~But now u even step on that little simple dream~
I really think that when if last year’s tragedy happens again, we fans must do something for real to show to that company. We have hold it in and tolerated for too long and too much~ Last year I remember K-ELFs planned to sue SM but because they fear SJ will be affected so they didn’t do it. But this year, as we have nothing to lose anymore, we MUST do something not legally -related but maybe some protest or something. I really really can’t hold it in anymore =.=
Comment by Linh.Hae— December 17, 2011 #
I almost cry at your “what we want is just 500k album for our boys, to fulfill our boys’ precious dream before they leave us for so so long”
TT____TT
Comment by Salimah Nadiah (@SalimahSakura)— December 17, 2011 #
THEY ONLY WANT MONEY but THEY DON’T CARE ELF’s FEELINGS fuck it >:(
Comment by Vlo Rency— December 17, 2011 #
I won’t blame it to snsd but why SM did it to us when sone is totally trying to reach our record? And then the reason is so unbelievable, you see iron is more expensive than ours? SM why you are so like this, I believe now or soon your company will see the end, you never learn, oh yea I remember when the other article said written by K-ELF, it said they’re confused why our album selling is going slowly when the albums sold more than that, shame on you SM, I love SJ but totally hate you
Comment by cheery— December 17, 2011 #
ahahhh… I want go to Korea n fire SMEnt now…..
Comment by Nurul Farhanah Husin (@Leehanahteukie)— December 17, 2011 #
i know it will happen someday, in my negative thinking
i realize when SJ release their 5th album..
but i hoping it will never happen, but now………………….sigh
Comment by ncent— December 17, 2011 #
At the very moment when SJ announces that they no longer belong to SM I think I might burn the whole company down!!
Comment by Nelson Lin— December 17, 2011 #
same thoughts here ^^
Comment by azkii— December 17, 2011 #
me too~
Comment by fje— December 17, 2011 #
please SMEnt play are fair game for SuJu.. Are you really want to see ELF’s IN ONE WORLD TO FIRE YOU BECAUSE OF SUJU???? really??? Let’s ELF IN ONE WORLD, WE NEED TO PROTECT THE BOYS…
Comment by Farhanah Husin (@MyLuvLeeteuk)— December 17, 2011 #
i guess they still didn’t realise the power of ELFs all over the world.. –.–
Comment by azkii— December 17, 2011 #
guys. why so pressed? relax. it’s embarrassed to see fellow ELF like this.
Comment by socoldcoffe— December 17, 2011 #
Are you kidding me? Fair enough if you had some actual argument.. as in a debate, for maybe the possible misunderstanding this post consists of, or errors.
OVBIOUSLY & OF COURSE ELF should be “pressed”.
Comment by uksujusid— December 17, 2011 #
i’m not kidding. isn’t it enough what other fandoms think we obsessed bitches? at least, try to not sound so angry.
Comment by socoldcoffe— December 17, 2011 #
i dont care what the other fandom thinking about us, i am angry because i LOVE our boys so much ^^
Comment by ncent— December 17, 2011 #
i care. because what we do and what we say push other fandom hate SJ as well. And i don’t wanna see if they win GDA people talk about how they don’t deserve it and ect.
Comment by socoldcoffe— December 17, 2011 #
ok, i respect your opinion^^
Comment by ncent— December 17, 2011 #
even if sid might not like me to promote my blog here, but hey: click on my name, I think you should read this instead of writing comments like that <.<
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
i just headed there, and i think its real. good one u have there. is this ur twitter id? @5uya?
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
yes @5uya is.
haha you need to scoll ^^
Also I answered your last comment as a new comment, way back down
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
sorry sid for multiple replies! but i’ve just requested to follow u on twitter. hope we could make great twitter buddies! ^^ @najahariff
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
okayyy.. this is just ABSURD !! now my saturday night just turn into depress… what the hell are SM tryin’ to do???
dear SM, aren’t u the one who only care about money?? well, SJ’s album makes a LOT of money.and no matter how difficult for you to print the 5th album, elf will keep buying it !! no matter how much the price !! can’t you see it??
at first i still keep believing that this year they can play fair, but now it seems like that’s not gonna happened according to all this..
i guess SM can’t see how much we,ELF LOVE SJ.. how hard we support them, how much efforts that we give for SJ to win the GDA.. to give the golden disk to our beloved SJ.. bcoz they kept doing all the cheating things.. (keep wondering why they dont want to see SJ win X(
i agree with what K-ELF says ”Who said we would give up this easily?”
bcoz yes, we WON’T give up this easy, ELF’s WILL NEVER GIVE UP !!
well now i’m just hoping that all my thoughts (bad thoughts >.<) about SM is not true, that all of this irritating news is wrong…. (how bad that i wish all of this is not true… TTuTT)
Comment by azkii— December 17, 2011 #
Soooo…. unfair!
what the fuckin plan SM has for our boys hah!
ck! damn it!
Comment by shaundsheeps— December 17, 2011 #
SM,
YOUR FKING COMPANY SUCKS.
STEPPING ON SJ JUST LIKE THAT.
RUINING SJ AND ELFS’ EFFORTS.
MOST IMPTANTLY, THAT STUPID COMPANY IS RUINING SJ’S FUTURE.
That’s why I say Hangeng made the right choice.
Comment by sj (@sjbest1234)— December 17, 2011 #
agree with u.. somehow i just want them get out of SM. we ELF will be happier with that.. (at least i personally do)
Comment by azkii— December 17, 2011 #
that’s right.. I Think Hangeng oppa make a right choice…
Comment by Farhanah Husin (@MyLuvLeeteuk)— December 17, 2011 #
ugggggh I hate SME! but what I hate the most? the fact that we can’t do anything about it. i mean sure we can use all our means for GDA but tbh, that would still be not enough. *sigh**sobs*
Comment by patt— December 17, 2011 #
as i thought. Sm always like that. SJ will never been treated so well these days without loosing something. They let SJ have world tour so SJ must sacrifice something. It’s just like last year. they have planed for everything.
Comment by momobear— December 17, 2011 #
if they didnt win, just sue SM. LOL. and yes, i want them to win like… BADLY.
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
I think ” SM ” really wants from ELF to Kill them .. ^_^
:/
Comment by Tolenah Sa— December 17, 2011 #
I think SME feels that ELF will do anything for our oppas, even without any help. Nevertheless, in this case I also don’t agree with what SME’s doing. For me, it’s not right. We WILL TAKE THE FIGHT!
Comment by Echka— December 17, 2011 #
like SERIOUSLY? of course they will do anything to keep snsd win for the daesang, even though snsd told their fans to let go of gda. this is too much for us ELFs especially are SJ oppas.
((
Comment by 012715— December 17, 2011 #
Hi ppl! I found a way to vote more than once a day. However, i am not using my laptop to vote which would require my home IP address. Instead, i used my phone 3G network (NOT WIFI) to vote, which does not require my house IP address which allows me to vote more than once per day as long as i used different hotmail and ID everytime i vote each day! You all can try to see if it works! Hope you find it useful! ELF FIGHTING!!!
Comment by jiaying— December 17, 2011 #
Seriously why is history repeating itself?! It was like that for last year’s GDA, sj had to sacrifice the award that they wanted so much for SS3. And now their world tour. Of course sj would chose to meet their fans who stayed by their side even when nobody supported them or knew how much effort they put in, because they spare a thought for their fans whom they love so much, so why can’t SME spare a thought for them??!!
Does SM think that this is some trading game or what? I have to give you something before you throw me something that you should have given to me
Comment by eternity99— December 17, 2011 #
sesange ~
damn yu SM!!
dont yu know how they love yu so much??
they always praise yu on variety shows n this is yur reward??
r yu still a man??
just get out 4rm that agency Oppadeul
yu r used by them to promote the agency so they can be worldwide n famous, n they throw yu away then
aigooo
Comment by S.E.S Suju ELF Sapphireblue— December 17, 2011 #
FUCK YOUSM
Comment by lol— December 17, 2011 #
SM unfair again..
I h*te U…
F**k…
#Iamvery2angry,,
Comment by LaraHeehee— December 17, 2011 #
NO !!! I haven’t buy ver a . shit sm ……ughhh…..
Comment by yumi— December 17, 2011 #
that’s UNFAIR!!!!
what f*ck the hell happen with you SMent??? they just want money but they didnt care with suju. I hate SM so much.. It seems so unfair. why? why they do this to our boys? I can’t admit it!!!! SUJU HAVE TO WIN GDA NO MATTER WHAT WILL HAPPEN SOON!!!
*sorry I really mad right now
Comment by eunhyukie— December 17, 2011 #
Don’t find this as an excuse to not buy the cd it’s still out there on many websites like yesasia (now counting for hanteo) or dvdheaven, kpoptown is going out of stock soon tho. SO BUY IT BUY ALL OF THE ONES STILL ON THE MARKET buy them.
and you f&#$%#$ SM burn in hell.
Comment by kyuhaehee— December 17, 2011 #
really? WTF
“too difficult to print”
find another reason sment. that is silly-___-
Comment by lalalalilili— December 17, 2011 #
this is just ridiculous .. really!!
Comment by karu2022— December 17, 2011 #
since when printed on paper is more difficult printed on tin.. sm you’re really use dirty way to make your princess win… i will fight with sm and snsd coz snsd just keep silent after all this happen. if their are true friend,they will choose a good way.. not bad way. let’s trend this #SMneedspaper
Comment by tihasuju— December 17, 2011 #
Well, I have to say that this news really shocked me but since there’s no official news on this issue about SM stopping album printings, let’s not all get worked up about it. Honestly, threats about burning the company down won’t help at all. LSM isn’t even able to see all these comments. We should instead look at how to help our boys. If we can’t do anything about album sales, then we should channel our efforts into voting. Voting for GDA is important too. Also, as absurd as it may sound, if a huge bunch of us comment on SM’s website or Facebook page, they may reconsider printing the albums again, because I do believe that they won’t leave our concerns unaddressed.
I started off as a Sone & I still am I. SNSD introduced me to SJ & made me an ELF. I love both groups equally but I hope that SJ gets to bag the grand prize for the upcoming GDA, because it’s their last chance. SNSD is still young & still has opportunities coming their way.
I’ve seen a couple of objective posts before when there’s relation to SNSD but I’m glad this post ended stating that we SHOULDN’T pit ourselves against other fandoms because I believe most ELFs see SNSD as a strong competitor.
Comment by 1universalmusic— December 17, 2011 #
I mean we SHOULDN’T pit ourselves against other fandoms*.
Comment by 1universalmusic— December 17, 2011 #
I can’t believe this!! D:
I wanted to be the most true ELF ever and own all 10 of them!! And I know I’m not the only one who wanted to do this!! D:
This is outrageous!!! >::<
Poor SuJu…. thanks to SM Ent… they probably won't reach their goal. We need to fight this…..
Comment by EmmKays— December 17, 2011 #
So hard to be an ELF.. But SM very poor for this. Please justice!!
Comment by rinchunn— December 17, 2011 #
uhhh I just want my bias cover although I got it 1 but I order from my country and wait more than a month and I still can’t get my bias cover this made me sad…It’s true that I can order from another store but I already got orther cover instead it hard for me to buy one more TT TT
Comment by nachi— December 17, 2011 #
Fuck you SMent
-From sweden
Comment by Sora— December 17, 2011 #
So.. this is how low SM really is.. we won’t give up.. ELF WILL NEVER GIVE UP!!
Comment by Sue— December 17, 2011 #
Guys, I feel like SM stopped producing Mr Simple Version A Albums because they want SNSD. Sorry it’s just that last year it was very painful to watch Leeteuk cry in GDA and it was SUJU’s year to win. Don’t get me wrong SONES I do love SNSD and their songs but it was SUJU that led me to listen to SNSD. But seriously I feel like SM stopped producing SUJU album because they want SNSD’s The Boys to win, as it’s song is produced my Michael Jackson’s producer. Seriously I don’t care if freakin’ Michael Jackson produces it himself, so long as the song is good. Urggghhh I feel so usless, and If there is gonna be an SS4 anywhere near the UK, I’m gonna cry real hard for SUJU and… OMG I JUST FEEL SO USELESS. SM you are gonna get the slap on the bloody cheek soon.
Comment by SJ— December 17, 2011 #
i am just laughing while my tears’s still dropping…lol..!how funny this fucking company acts..
Comment by hanjinhyo @SharonLee86— December 17, 2011 #
gosh, i hate that company. why are they treating their artist this way? last year GDA are hard enough for our boys. and now SME is doing this childish thing? i know Super Junior’s future now is unpredictable but shouldn’t you SM help the stars to rise up? it’s like you used them SM.
Comment by ginger— December 17, 2011 #
SJ DON’T GIVE UP…ELF WILL SUPPORT U…FIGHTING…FIGHTING..
Comment by syera— December 17, 2011 #
I seriously do not know what to say. If all this is true then wow, this is seriously absurd and very unfair. I’m sure it is expensive to be making this kind of album but this is something that the company came up with. It’s their job to be producing the album like all the other older albums.
—–
But since there is no confirmation, maybe we should be more careful with our choice of words. I know a lot of these things people are expressing right now are thru anger & frustration but I hope we don’t put this on SNSD or other idol groups. I mean, I can careless about what other fandoms think of SJ and ELFs but lets remain calm. Instead of waiting for the truth, I guess what we should all do is keep voting and ask SM what is going on FB and Youtube. Remember to think carefully before writing things when you’re talking to the entertainment company. Lets go seek the truth but lets do it in a more professional way.
Comment by Melissa Yang— December 17, 2011 #
Even if we were to vote for GDA, if the percentage to count into the total result is minimal, we wouldnt win too. Like MAMA, votings was only 20% of the overall. Screw SM, how can they do this to their own artists.
Comment by KELf— December 17, 2011 #
More than being pissed off, I’m kind of sad that SJ might not receive GDA this year. I can’t believe that they would actually go on a two-year hiatus… I haven’t been a fan for long and I was determined to see SS4 when they came to America but not being able to see them active for two years is too much…
And I don’t really understand what’s hard about printing more albums. It’s not like THEY’RE the ones personally doing it. I’m sure there’s a company that prints the albums for them. Even if it costs a lot of money to print them, you will always get profit when ELF buys them. Seriously, almost 500k albums…
Comment by keimura— December 17, 2011 #
ELFs~~~~!!!!
we have got to do something we cant just sit down and watch
we work hard to bring suju on top SM is just getting in our way
there are millions of us againts 1 company
why dont all the ELFs in korea gather together in SM building and tell SM a warning?….but not too much damage we dont want to spoil suju’s image
Comment by Sarah Thani— December 17, 2011 #
i’m really sick and tired of this. I wonder if SM ever feels tired doing this all the time. They must have worked really hard to stopped SJ from getting what they deserved to have. And honestly speaking, i don’t know what to believe and not to believe anymore. I really want them to win GDA this year, like BADLY…but now…i’m trying to tell myself to not have high hopes on SJ winning this year’s GDA because i don’t want to be disappointed at the end of the day (but of course…i’ll always believe in SJ). SM should be ashamed for doing this.
p/s: if they are too clever to take this kind of action…can’t they give a clever excuse as well? “too hard to print”? like…hello…if you are so clever…can’t you even differentiate between metal and paper, which one is harder?
Comment by hasnifariza— December 17, 2011 #
you’ll get what you pay for SM, only STUPID BASTARDS say no to the NEEDS. The more dirty things you do, the more you are looked down on… Once again, SELFISH, JEALOUS & STUPID…
Comment by Aboo— December 17, 2011 #
Are you guys as mad about this as I am? Please join the group below & I will add you guys to a ELF group on facebook. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/305551049484554/
Comment by morethanwords13— December 17, 2011 #
There are still over thousands of these album available. Don’t worry. Just order.
Comment by Myumeful— December 17, 2011 #
ANSWERING TO:
“referring to ur comment, i actually have that in mind too, and i kind of agree with that. but as u said this, “What their charm is is that they are very natural and human, with all the faults within our nature.”, this is what i meant about real, just thank u for expressing this very well. teukie is really like that, and that’s portrayed clearly in videos. even their honesty can be seen clearly by their action and words. for heavenly, i never thought of them as that, but i know many ELFs think of them like that. sometimes, poor teukie, being the leader, he just had to be that way, as what u stated in the comment. and its scary for me too. but u know, just pray that his somewhat-scary character could protect SJ till the end, and not otherwise. purely what i want from that kind of character, bcoz if it were to go negatively, it would be destructive, dont u think? lets just hope it will go towards a constructive way.”
ANSWER:
I think Eeteuk was like that even before joining SMent as a trainee. haha. And yes: his character could be very destructive indeed. He would be able to go either way as long as it is within his principles and logic. It’s good that he chose the way he is going. And yes: this allowed him to protect his members well. Actually it’s good that Leeteuk needed to train as long as he did, because this led him to tresure his bandmate more and probably gave him an even higher sense of responsibility in terms of protection them. Actually his character is very fitting for a public person and leader since he won’t be swept by emotions, yet depends on them passivly (as for example his desire for recognition). But: this specific bound to emotions also makes him an “hidden danger”… he may have a sudden burst and that sudden burst may lead to an decision/action beyond his logic or to an destructive reaction. As long as he keeps some room for his emotions and smaller waves of letting them out it’s ok.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
strangely, i do agree with you. i’ve been thinking hard about that, like kangin with his temper and quite a temper he has there, kyu being evil, yesung being unable to really adapt into the society, donghae needing to be led by others, and heechul being 4-D, on and on, these are all real indeed. and again, yes, teukie really need to be the way he is now, but again, it’s a hidden danger, like u said. i couldnt agree more. hyukkie is so truthful, and pure, while teukie is someone who could change to be favoured by the situation. but again, he’s the only one like that, and its him being himself, like the others are being themselves. i guess u watched 5000 questions? the one they had with yesung, heechul and yesung, teukie is indeed one person who pursues power and extremely ambitious. for someone like him, he just wouldnt care about anything and would just go forward. sometimes, well, he even neglected others, especially those who couldnt really talk or entertain, like yesung. and this is obviously noticeable during their impromptu talk, kind of. but of course, everybody just loves to neglect my yesung. LOL. but again, i really hope his hidden identity would benefit SJ, and if he were to encounter a breakdown, pls let it be destructive to others, and not SJ members. thats all i could hope for.
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
Haha I actually don’t have much to comment on that. I basically agree
I think Kyu got more mature after his accident and being treated harshly by the other members in the beginning (because before he has had it rather easy, jugding from what we know, that is). As for Kangin: indeed a temper and actually his character is not exactly suitable for an public person even if he is charming in his own way. Yesung may seem like he is unable to adapt, but I think he is just restricitng himself due to rather low-selfconfidence (which actually got much better in the recent years). Also I think he is able to talk and entertain in a very own way and I think Teuk is aware of this and might even take it as “danger” (since Yesung already has the “singing” position within Suju, making him get an entertaining position and supporting him in it may seem like something that should be avoided, not for himself, but for the group). Donghae…I think Donghae actually has his own head and knows what to do without following others. He takes a supportive role (same as Ryewook) when he actually has quality to be a leader in a philosophic way (as in his views on live and character may be calming, devoted and very logic in an emotional way). Heechul is freedom loving, as he has strong individuality, very strong ideals, emotion and being very sensitive (to himself, but also towards other peoples feelings), which seems like kinda making it hard for him to adapt and moody, yet at the same time very aware of this and actually an very logic and analyting person, which is easy to misunderstand. Eunhyuk indeed is a trueful person, takes emotions very serious as well as relationships (all kind of them). Seems like he doesn’t need to be “number one” but is ambitious in his own way. Also has very high ideals and patience. He is not simple as he seems I think.
Same as Teuk I think Sungmin is quite a cunning person.
I left out “seems to” and “I think” and such expression just take it I wrote them.
I did wath 5000 question back then. Yes.
haha also: I hope it won’t be destructive to nobody. Leeteuk should use it to set an example and lead younger generations well.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
actually, thats exactly what i wanted to say, that teuk is worried that someone would take his position away from him. but yes, yesung has really low self-confidence, and he’s not that good to be on his own except when he sings. but i really like kyu’s stand. he’s like, indestructible. but all in all, i agree with your summary. LOL. sungmin is cunning, and yet, maybe bcoz he’s not in the upper level of age, he has to restrict himself very much. sometimes he looks very sad. but i think i’m very much like teukie. LOL. but i’m not that hardworking pursuer. he’s very hardworking, and of course, thats a result of a very harsh training. being like that is really tiring you know, since u have to cup up all the true emotions u have and plaster something not really real. i wonder for how long will he be able to contain all those emotions.
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
Hm … Yesung even seems to be a bit insecure when he sings at times… I think he is controlling his singing to much (maybe because he is afraid to become a bad singer if he doesn’t controll it). It kinda keeps him from developing a more artistic singing, his technics and voice are very nice already…all he lacks is an “inner freedom”, which would release those abilities, which I believe he actually has for quite some time.
Haha yes I do like Kyu’s stand a lot as well.
Sungmin not in the upper level of age? Within Suju? well… Sungmin was born 1986 which makes him right “middle aged”, having hyungs and dongsaengs rather equally. I think what has resticted him is his “cute” image, which I think he should get rid off if he wants to stay sane (seriously: acting all cute… will drive a person sooner or later crazy). And I completly agree on that he looks sad at times.
Haha I see, so you are a leeteuk person. Keke I am a Chel person.
Leeteuk being hardworking…I think it’s not a result of the training, but of his desire to be recognized. As long has he is praised in some way Leeteuk will work hard to the extend of giving up himself (which is very sad).
I am aware of how hard it is to cup up true emotions. Indeed hard. For Leeteuk’s sake I hope he will get sick of it and find out who he truely is. Because fully understanding himself will make him stronger and happier.
Comment by nn— December 17, 2011 #
right. thats one thing i’m quite unhappy about yesung. he has to learn to release his ability to the top notch, or else, if SM forgot about him later (and i really think thats very likely to happen), he might be forgotten as well. and i really dont want that to happen. T_T
again, yes, leeteuk really pursues power and ambition. thought i’m that kind of person sometimes, but i’d rather be myself. but often enough, earlier people would favour me, but then i’ll get sick of it and show my true self, and then suddenly i’m their enemy. LOL. thats likely to happen to leeteuk. yes, being that plastered is totally unhealthy.
for the time being, i think, having heechul is safer. LOL. or maybe kangin? =P
Comment by anarif88— December 17, 2011 #
I love reading your comments nn and anarif88, it’s like you’re psuchologists and you’re doing a personality evalutation of the members..pls tell us more about what you think of all the members
Comment by kharen— December 18, 2011 #
oh well no I am not a psychologist. As for telling more…I do write comments about the members traits at times, but I don’t really do it thinking “let’s do a evaluation”…after all I don’t know the members personnally. So what I am writing is more or less vague. I write about these from time to time, you might be able to catch some of those comments now or then, or if I am having a discussion like the one with anarif
Haha
Comment by nn— December 18, 2011 #
same as for any member: Sm won’t forget about them as long as they make money. Also… I think Yesung (outside suju) will have a rather stabil singing carrer, with a stable fanbase….I think he should do some more musicals and other solo projects to find out what exactly he wants to do and how he wants to do it (but I think he already knows quite well which path to walk).
“earlier people would favour me, but then i’ll get sick of it and show my true self, and then suddenly i’m their enemy”..I think trying too hard and not being recognized for the efforts kinda tiggers that sudden change. You should relax a bit more
“having heechul”? As in having similar traits? well nope not exactly “safe”, it’s pretty tiring to be like that. As for Kangin: I think he should get a better hold of himself and think more about consequences as well as builing up a higher level of responibility.
“safest” within Suju would be Ryewook I think. kekeke
Comment by nn— December 18, 2011 #
i can’t understand why SM doing this..it doesn’t make a sense…..is it the reason because snsd?? i hope not…SM should treat their artist fairly….if suju could break album sales records..that very impressive achievements..and SM will get the benefit too…i hope next year there will be no more case like this again..and ELF we should gather our strength to make suju become the winner in GDA…fighting..ELF………..
Comment by nurul rizka— December 17, 2011 #
I’m so freakkin pissed off at this, but at the same time, I know that like everything else, this will be regarded as air to SME. They put their money into other groups *I won’t mention a specifik group* but they cheap out on Suju. The lack of money put into Suju’s videos since years back, unfair treatment and now this! To me it seems like SME are trying to “sink” Suju in order for another SME group to surpass. Nonetheless the reason for this, it’s WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by wandering_Stranger— December 17, 2011 #
Wtf I was hoping this wasn’t true!! Smet I can’t explain my hatred for u and LSM u b****** do u get amused by torturing Elfs and our boys like that!! I didn’t even have all the albums yet
:(
Comment by Faryal— December 17, 2011 #
pfff seriously I’m really sad and angry for Super Junior it’s them who are losing in this story.. while they deserve to be respected and well treated for all the work they did!
And wtf he’s rich! his company is rich!! What is too expensive for you guy?! I hate you so much SM..
Comment by minbbobbo— December 17, 2011 #
Sment,i cant believe u!!u’ve an idiot dicision and not fair with suju.fuck u!!
Comment by mama— December 17, 2011 #
If SuJu does not win GDA for Disk Daesang, then I think SM will be smart enough not too push SNSD or any of their artist to win. I mean the last thing they will want is more anti fan for SNSD. But if SUJU don’t win GDA, I will…
Comment by Jady— December 17, 2011 #
“The boys are also going into a two year hiatus” – this is for real???? I can’t wait TWO years!!!! I meet them 4 moths ago =(((
Comment by Gaby— December 17, 2011 #
ELF are in war with SME.. this is just unfair!
Comment by Gaby— December 17, 2011 #
this is sickening! if this news is true then it’s really obvious. sment is really doing their “assignment” in making sure to slowly make the world accept that super junior is already nearing its (can’t find the right word, sorry) “bye-bye” time. i mean, why in the world they would decide not to reproduce the album anymore when it’s the main thing to get the much coveted gda? maybe sment wants suju not to win any major awards anymore so they could have a “valid reason” when they face the world to say: “we’ll breaking up super junior”…
maybe this thinking is weird but i don’t know. i just have this instinct that the sment has already decided that super junior’s successfu 6 years in the business is enough…
but, anyway, i heard that only albums sold in korea are the ones that will be counted for gda. if that so, we global ELFs trust and believe the korean ELFs will do their best in making sure that our boys will “bring home the bacon”…
let’s declare war against sment, hahahaha… :p
Comment by ♥♥ k A t H y ♥♥ (@blue_authoress)— December 17, 2011 #
Is that true?? I thought albums bought will be counted towards Hanteo chart?? Depending where u buy them.
In my opinion they need GG to win awards cuz they gonna debut in America and they need these awards to prove they are popular!
I don’t want to see SJ breakup and don’t want to think about it. It’s really heartbreaking to know the unfairness towards them. Smet I hate you and LSM u make my blood boil.
Comment by Faryal— December 17, 2011 #
International fans do help w album sales as long as you buy from places that count towards Hanteo chart.
I get mine from Kpoptown.com which does count because its from Korea.
Comment by Adriana— December 17, 2011 #
If it’s to difficult to print then it’s not the managements (SM) fault but the production team (meaning the factory) so go complain there.
Comment by Jo_m— December 17, 2011 #
ELFs, remember that saying, “if one day, the world betrays Super Junior, ELF betrays the world” ?! I think it’s time.
Comment by FifahShim— December 17, 2011 #
What THE….SME doing???huh….this seriously really really make me mad!! =P
Comment by Shin Mira— December 17, 2011 #
SM Entertainment…..just too pathetic! Pff. -.-
*This is the whole situation from my point of view*
SM had planned disbanding Super Junior in 2011 or whatever. But ELFs noticed SM treating them in a strange way, so they began supporting the boys even harder by buying lots of albums, letting them be on the top on various music pages etc.
Due to this, SM wasn’t able to stop making promotions etc. for their successful artists all of a sudden (because they could probably get suspicion from press). So they want to prevent ELFs supporting SJ to let SJ apply to “non-appreciated” artists and suspend them finally.
And you know….I think Super Junior themselves realized this as well…..or SM already informed them.
Ugh, I hope it’s not like this!!!! And if it is, SUPER JUNIOR and ELF FIGHTING!! ♥
Comment by sjkeyhae— December 17, 2011 #
SM Entertainment. Fuck you.
Comment by Jewel— December 17, 2011 #
ELFs, remember that saying “If the world betrays Super Junior, ELFs will betray the world” I think it’s time..
Comment by Fifah Kassim— December 17, 2011 #
OMG WTH is happening with SME?? Gosh, -____- I’m pissed off..
It was unbelievable,,after everything they’ve done..
I don’t think ElF will give up.
Yeah, we won’t.
Elf will do everything for our superman, super junior, the last man standing, right?
Comment by sapphireblueclouds— December 17, 2011 #
This is really alarming in our part…we need to do something about it..i don’t want to see SUJU members sad..It is their dream to sell 500,000 thousand copies of albums,so our job is to support and buy the album..this is so unfair…
Comment by Antonette Faye Pedregosa— December 18, 2011 #
Fuck SM entertainment !! this is so Unfair !!!
Comment by leenwookie— December 18, 2011 #
No comment seriously
!!!!!!!
Comment by ♕ Ms.ParkJungSu ♕ (@SJQ8ELF)— December 18, 2011 #
BABO SME. Come on World ELFs burn the company down! We don’t want our oppas get hurt anymore!! Can’t u see SM? We always say “이렇게 쉽게 포기한다고 누가그래?” !!
Comment by delikyus— December 18, 2011 #
E.L.Fs lets stop arguing here, and instead lets prove to SM the SuJu and E.L.F isnt easy to mess with! Lets buy more Ver b+c+a and KEEP VOTING ON GDA and for some reason our percentage keeps on dropping! Lets think of it in a different view…if SM stops making Ver A…wouldnt he lose alot of money? And if he stops making ver A then E.L.Fs should spam SM FB/YT page, or protest!!(well protesting might be a bad idea cuz if we do then later we wouldnt know what SM will do to SJ)
AND SO LETS STOP ARGUING ND MORE VOTING ND BUYING! LETS PROVE THAT SJ AND E.L.F IS MORE POWERFUL THAN HE THINKS!
Comment by SJELF— December 18, 2011 #
I’m with you. There’s still some places that have ver A. So instead of saying some things our oppas would be ashamed to read, lets go buy whatever is left of the copies and keep voting. Actions are worth more than any words. You wanna prove SM they are wrong for this then lets show them by proving how popular and loved SuJu is. And if SuJu unfortunately don’t win GDA this year either, so what? We wont stop loving them or supporting them right?? We’ll just work even harder to show the world how amazing and talented SuJu guys are. Right? Yes I would love for SJ to win GDA since their future is unclear.. But I think our oppas will still be extremely happy to see how much ELFs have worked to give them everything we can no matter the outcomes. I understand everyone’s pain/anger/hatred because I felt them all too. But we must think before we post things. If our guys came across this post I don’t think they’d be too proud of many of us.. REMEMBER, ACTIONS SPEAK MORE THAN WORDS SO VOTE AND BUY!
Comment by Adriana— December 18, 2011 #
one question..what do u mean when u say mama award is the last award for sj? “The boys are also going into a two year hiatus, and the future is of course unpredictable”….what is this? whats the meaning behind this hurtful sentences? As an ELF, this is the sentence that i really DONT wanna hear…please! can someone explain this to me…
Comment by Julia HeartsKyu— December 18, 2011 #
I’m crying rn!
Can’t show my feeling here T^T
Comment by deekyulatte— December 18, 2011 #
Honestly? “It is their job to reprint albums whether they like it or not” is one of the most ridiculous and entitled comments I’ve seen yet. SM are only obliged to fulfil orders which have already been placed and paid for. Other than that, it’s their choice what product they offer. Just as it’s our choice which product we buy.
And realistically speaking, once the GDA votes are counted, sales of Version A (and B) are probably going to drop. If I was SM, i would be planning to scale down production as well, just for that reason. If people think this is wrong – i.e. because they really genuinely want to keep buying the record – then they need to be telling this to SM and the retailers, not making idiotic and foul mouthed posts on this website. I’m willing to bet that Super Junior themselves would be appalled by some of the comments I’ve read here.
Comment by xs— December 18, 2011 #
WHAT WAS THAT???
feel like wanna slap their face. hmm thanks for brought their for us in the past, introduced for us those 15 angles, but culd u somehow think abot our feeling?? u still need money rite?? so just let us buy their album!!i cant get understand what are thinking for exact =___________=
Comment by miyadongkey— December 18, 2011 #
dude dis is BS O_O how will SJ win agaisnt SNSD for GDA now if they cant sell anymore f*ckin album =-=
Comment by SJBby— December 18, 2011 #
wow. i dunno what to say. the comments above have pretty much summarized everything. i’m trying my very best to do my part as an ELF. i really hope SJ will win the GDA this year. someone i know once said, “i never hope. it doesn’t work for me” but i digress. all i want to say is, never lose hope. hope is a dream that never sleeps remember? screw SM. we’ll fight till the end. let’s channel our never-ending energy to the thing that matters the most now: GDA voting.
Comment by summersunshine— December 18, 2011 #
I really can’t stand you anymore,Lee-So-whatever
Wait and see
When we burn that stupid,f*cking,sh*it company down,go and dead along with your biased
Our boys don’t need you to survive,and ELF doesn’t need you too x-(
P/s: I want to kill somebody now
Comment by Tinh Nhi— December 18, 2011 #
The mad is gone,i look back and think:”I never say a bad word in my entire life,and now i say that”=.=
P/s: Have to admit that this is not a confirmed news
Comment by Tinh Nhi— December 18, 2011 #
Wow i think everything is just being blown out of proportions here. There is no official statement that they are going to stop production for Version A right? We should all calm down and encourage everyone to vote for Suju for GDA daily!
And if ELF’s want to support our boys in regards to the GDA, we can still buy Version C right?
Either way i bought my copy of Version A weeks ago and it is the the best. album. ever. GO BUY IT BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE, i’m not even sure WHY some people are complaining if they haven’t even bought their copy yet.
*directs you towards dvdheaven/kpoptown*
Comment by brenda— December 18, 2011 #
i think sme is very sick for doing that sj…………………………………………SJ FIGHTING……..<3
Comment by jang heon young— December 18, 2011 #
FUCK YOU SMENT
Comment by bubble96— December 18, 2011 #
sme is soo unfair, they dont know how to care about their artist.!!
this is really ridiculous, super pissed off.!!
damn sme.!!
super junior fighting, we wont give up on you.!!
Comment by kyuhyunforever— December 18, 2011 #
What the hell! Damn SM.U’re always make ELF disappointed with you.
Comment by SopheakVotey— December 18, 2011 #
So Everyone Don’t Buy Version B !
It’s A Waste Of Money !!!!!
Comment by Limin— December 18, 2011 #
Girl’s … E.L.F’S
PLZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZz
The only Way 2 show that SM is Hell RONG !
Is 2 Help SUPER JUNIOR WIN THE GOLDEN DISK AWRADS ~
If they win .. thin & ONLY thin .. SM wod Fell that what theu did Was F## Rong ~
SOO PLZzZzZzZzZzZzZz VOTE IN ” GDA ” PLLLZZZZZZ
http://cnbluestorm.com/2011/12/12/tutorial-vote-cnblue-for-golden-disk-award-2011/
Vote Plllzzz Vote .. bay the way this link says ” VOTE 4 CNBLUE ” sorry didnt find VOTE 4 SUJU ~
Comment by eezz— December 18, 2011 #
Oppa yes i agree with that discussed by oppa must still defend it, do not give up should still retain the spirit of the super junior hyung and as well as Lee Teuk oppa must keep the spirit!
“Spirit”
^_^
Comment by nita yunita— December 18, 2011 #
FUCK YOU SME, FUCK YOU. that’s all i have to say.
Comment by dusty 정이— December 18, 2011 #
I think we should all relax, I know how much wining the GDA means to suju, to the elfs. Everytime I see news of sm mistreating suju I feel very sad and disappointed. But seriously, there is little we can do. Even to protest, what can we achieve? So why don’t we just focus on other aspects of the GDA like the voting and purchase whatever ver a b and c then we can!
let’s do our beat and show suju that we elfs are not faint spirited and that no matter that adversities are placed before us, for suju, we will overcome it. Should be not e able to win GDA and lose it to ….. again, let us at least take comfort in the fact that at least our suju oppas sold >500,000 copies
) fighting ELFS
Comment by Elf(:— December 18, 2011 #
I have nothing against SNSD but E.L.Fs, pls think abt this. SME is not gonna print anymore mr simple version a, But who gets the most advantage at that? SNSD. I some how think that SME is starting to forsake SuJu to get more advantages for SNSD which is unfair for both SuJu and E.L.Fs. Reason? Because SuJu is going on Hiatus. For the next 2 yrs, they can gain nothing more for SME. Thats y LSM that Bastard decides to somehow focus on SNSD instead. WTF.
Comment by cratejbs— December 18, 2011 #
Soo…I wont be able to get ver A??
(
Comment by Initialdi— December 18, 2011 #
I’m so disappointed .. to you SM ,,, Why are you doing this???? WHYYYYYYYYYYYY????????????????????
Comment by sarah— December 18, 2011 #
wait…one moment….suju will go into a two year hiatus?? …but they will come back…won’t they? :O
SME…This is really not fair…you have crossed the line! Why sj? they are one of your best artists and you treat them so unfair…!!! We all know,that sme is biased but that is the proof! SNSD get’s metal boxes but normal ver.A albums of Mr.Simple are too difficult to print?! that is a lie…they just don’t like sj or they have seen,how much we love them and say “oh …no matter what we do and no matter how crappy a music video is ELF will always love and support sj….so we can do,what we want!”
FUCK YOU SME! WE WILL WIN GDA AND WE WILL SUPPORT THEM!
Comment by Lιηα ☮ (@ForeverELF14)— December 18, 2011 #
oh my god
arggghhh…… FUCK YOU SME
Comment by kpopers407— December 18, 2011 #
I want to cry elves are not strong with all the words of SME
really stabbing into the heart but I’m always praying for oppadeul and I always love to oppadeul ..
Comment by ditha— December 18, 2011 #
I want to cry elves are not strong with all the words of SME
Comment by ditha— December 18, 2011 #