SJ-MARKET.. EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.. ~ GDA NOT LEGIT!
December 11, 2010 at 4:16 PM | Posted in Albums, Awards, ELF, News/Rumors, Pictures/Videos, Wonderboys | 146 Commentsthose who don’t know… Super Junior should have won the DaeSang of 2010 – uksujusid
Source: HERE – Written by: 곧잉어
First of all, I like to make sure this is all writen by fan of Super Junior.
The first and the only intention of this is asking appropriate apology and compensation to Golden Disk Awards 2010
according to some doubtful points brougth up about award standard, so hopefully there will not be any misunderstanding or unpleasant dispute following.“Few suspicions about GDA”
First, about their judging standard for wineers.
GDA select 10 team for Main Award (5 for Disk Award, 5 for Digital Award) based on their sales volume of Disk and Digital source.
60% reflects the sales voume, 20% for internet vote and other 20% by judges’ evaluation.
The sales volume of Disk is based on data from domestic distribution company and wholesale/retail markets.
The sales volume of Digital source is total number of download / BGM from famouse online digital source websites.
A team who has the highest outcome for each Disk and Digital will win the Grand prize.▶ Part of an article ‘Who will be next winner of 2010 GDA’ by ran@joongang.co.kr
The standard for ” Ceci popular award” is not specified clearly. But in general, its been known that it is 100% result of popular vote. No matter what, since it is called ‘The poplular Award’, it is justified that it should reflect only poputer vote 100%.
1, Yesung(Super Junior) – It has to be you (Digital Awards)
This song got the most vote and was ranked no. 1 of the vote for Digital Award.
This is the picture of state of vote on 2010/12/08 the day of GDA.
If you look closely and compare the percentage of first two (Yesung, LeeSeungGi) and others who follows next,
they are two intense competition while others have relatively low numbers.However, in GDA 2010, there were five winners for this Award, LeeSeungGi, Miss A, IU, CNBLUE and 2AM.
However when you look at their results of vote, its only Lee:43.9%, Miss A: 0.1%, IU: 0.1%, CNBLUE 0.6% and 2AM: 1,7%.They are saying the vote result if only 20% for selection so lets see the sales volume which must be 60%.
This is comparison between Yesung and Lee who were keen competitor and the winner.
This is the chart from Music Bank, there is “Yesung-It has to be you” on no.4 and no LeeSeungki.
This is chart of Mobile ringtones from 2009/11/30 to 2010/11/30. “Yesung-It has to be you” is on no.15.
You can see other LeeSeungGi’s song on the chart (no.24) but no “Love taught me to drink” which was the one he got the prize with.This is the chart of Mobile Ring back tone from 2009/11/30 to 2010/11/21.
“Yesung-It has to be you” is on no.4 while LeeSeungGi is on 10ths.This is chart of evaluation for the first half year 2010.
“Yesung-It has to be you” is on no.12 while “LeeSuengGi-Love taught me to drink” is on no.27.If you see all these data, Yesung who did not get the Digital award was actually more qualified than Lee who won.
This is only the comparison of two who were very keen competitor in the popular vote.
I apologize to fans of Lee for comparing these two, but it comes to the front that there was no reason for Yesung not to win.2. Ceci Popular Award.
Like I said earlier, there is nowhere criteria for the Popular award is specified.
However, since this is ‘The Popular’ award to judge how popular they are to the people. It should reflect result of popular vote 100%.
Last year, It went to SHINee and Super Junior who were #1 and #2 of the popular vote.
You can see they won it through the GDA website. (http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/goldendisk/kr/history/award_2009.html)
However, this year, even though the result of vote was same as the last year (#1 SHINee #2 Super Junior), It was SHINee and SNSD who won the Ceci Popular Award.The gap between #2, SuperJunior and #3 SNSD was also very visible.
You can see the gap between those two is almost 16%.
Super Junior actually got MSN Asia Popular Award earlier of the ceremony.
However, If you look at the result of vote for MSN Asia Popular Award,
the gap between Super Junior and the other teams were just too huge and obvious to anyone else would win the prize but them.And also, there is no statement saying “You can not win both Ceci Popular Award and MSN Asia Popular Award”
or ” You can not win Ceci Poupular Award if you already won the MSN Asia Popular Award” on their website or press release.This vote was done without distinction of Male/Female, and also there is no statement saying it will be one Male Group and one Female Group to be winners.
Also, for GDA 2009 last year, two winners were SHINee and Super Junior, both male group so there is actualy no explanation for giving the prize to SNSD instead of Super Junior.For the last but definitely not the least, this popular vote actually CHARGE the money for voting.
300won per ARS phonecall vote (app. 25 cents for US dollars) and 500won (app. 40cents) for Wireless vote.
Since it also relates to actually money problem, it could be developed as a lawsuit in the future.(Here is the example of legal statement that could be made out of this.)
There is money owed to us and GDA since we payed for certain votes for Popular award.
GDA, the debtor, actually has obligation to award the Ceci Popular award.
Also, since we became consumer by paying certain price, we have right to know.
We were supposed to be noticed before
that MSN Asia Popular Award and Ceci Popular Award cannot be awarded together.
It is a violation of our right to know since we have never got any notice.
Furthermore, even though we have good reason to win it
because of GDA’s mistake, it creates bad impression about Super Junior to the public
saying they are not worth to win the Popular Prize.
And it also creates defamation on both Super Junior and us.
(written by 온새미로 ‘13정수헬러’ http://cafe.daum.net/manful24/)Therefore, it all explains that there was no reason for Super Junior not to get “Ceci Popular Award” ,
how it actually damaged fans financialy and how it actually makes legal relationship between fans and GDA.3. Disk Award Grand Prize
Disk Award Grand Prize went to SNSD for GDA 2010.
As I mentioned earlier, Golden Disk Disk Award is 60% of sales volume, 20% of popular vote and 20% of judges’ decisions.First, let’s look at the result of Popular Vote
As you see, Super Junior outspaced SNSD by 11.6%.
Now, let’s compare the sales volume for two of their disk.
This is article saying there is major chance that Super Junior will win the GDA Disk Grand Prize for two years in a row.*Translation
There are major chance for Super Junior to win GDA Disk Grand Prize for two years in a row.
The Golden Disk Award, which made to be 25th years by now, select their winners according to sales volume of Disk and Digital source.
It seems like Super Junior who was the winner of GDA 2009 has the most selling record this year by far too.According to Hanteo chart, Super Junior 4th Album ‘BONAMANA’ version A has been sold 131,946 disk between 2010/01/01 to 2010/12/08 and ranked as No.1.
There is SNSD whose 2nd Album ‘Oh!’ is on No.2 but there aer 8,000 disk difference between ‘Oh!’ and ‘BONAMANA’.
This time the repackage album will be also counted for the GDA. According to the chart, repackage of Super Junior 4th has been sold 45,412 disks and repackage of SNSD 2nd has been sold 56,543 disks.
Actually Super Junior’s 4th Album was also released as v.2 which has been sold 48,368 disks.GDA annouced ‘Hoot’ by SNSD relased on October has been sold 91,544 disks but it will not be conunted since it was not on the chart when nominees were selected.
In GDA, there is also popular vote part which is 20%. At this point, Super Junior is voted 34.5% and ranked as no.1 while SNSD is voted 22.9% as no.2.
However, it is very clear that gap is more than 10% and make Super Junior outspaced SNSD by 11.6%.Super Junior won Disk Grand Prize at GDA 2009, last year.
▶ Part of an article by KimEunKu from EDaily SPN.
(http://spn.edaily.co.kr/entertain/newsRead.asp?sub_cd=EA21&newsid=01249686593196880&DirCode=0010201)There are many other evidence that is obvious.
This is the actual chart from Hanteo data base.
You can see clearly that Super Junior sold much more disks than SNSD.There are many arguments about repackage album and album version B, but there is not clear specification on any page of GDA website or press realease.
BONAMANA version A and B has exactelly same songs listed so actually it is very hard to tell that they are two seperate album.
And as you read from the article, SNSD’s latest single ‘Hoot; was not counted for the award.However, we could find this article after the Award ceremony.
*Translation
SNSD and 2AM got the honor of winning GDA grand prizes.
On December 12th, at the 25th Golden Disk Award held in Korea University, SNSD won the Disk Award Grand prize and 2AM won the Digital Award Grand prize.
SNSD won the prize for their songs ‘Oh!’ and ‘Hoot’ and 2AM won it with ‘Even if i die…’, ‘You wouldn’t answer..’ and ‘Like Grazy’.
Therefore, SNSD got the double crown from last year, 2AM who was the first nominee for GDA acutally won the Grand Prize.▶ Part of an article by khj@etoday.co.kr.
First of all, the biggest problem is that GDA never inform exactelly which album is being counted for the prize even though they have been overemphasize their fairness on selecting winners.
It means they actually have very ambiguous standard which could be changed anytime for any intension.
If GDA informed this clearly and early, there would be no arguments about this and no cofusion between even reporters to write different articles.We actually also found this on some website..
*translation
It is about the judges’ point for the prize which is 20% out of 100.
According to this, it is saying SNSD is selected as winner by judges through 3 levels of evaluation because of being as icon of Korean popand efforts to enhance the nation’s status for being great success over japan.
However,
Super Junior’s popularity and influence throughout oversea easily exceed SNSD on 2010.
Even though there was no actual activity or public appear, they already own huge number of fans in Japan and leads Super Junior – K.R.Y concert in Japan.
They has been also ranked as no.1 in not only Korea, Japan and China but also all around Asia such as Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore etc.
Also it was very surprising to fans to see they were very popular in Brazil and Arab States with no public appear or promotion at all.http://mbn.mk.co.kr/pages/news/newsView.php?category=mbn00007&news_seq_no=1013025
▶ Article showing the popularity in Brazilhttp://www.kgbnews.kr/sub_read.html?uid=17488
▶ Article showing the popularity in Arab statesAs you see Super Junior already dominate the market world wide over Asia.
Therefore, It is hard to understand why judges would evaluate the value of Super Junior less then SNSD.(+Add)
We heard this was not actually from the the judge, but we still want to say, it is true that SNSD has been very succesful over the year,
but Super Junior was also very successful or even more.
So We are saying, it is very hard to understand, the judges decision could be the reason for them not winning the Grand prize even though we all do not know exactelly how judges tought.4. for the Last, the reaction of other Musicians in the ceremony.
After the break, Super Junior didnt come back to the hall until the Popular Award.
Also, right before the Grand Prize award, their manager whispherd something to Leeteuk and other Members.
After this secret whispers, it was very hard to tell their face was happy and their face all frozen really fast. Makes us wonder.. what was that whispher all about?After SNSD went up the stage for the prize, other musicians come to Super Junior, not SNSD, and hugged them.
We all know Super Junior has lots of friends but still it is weird that everyone hugged Super Junior while there is actually winner on the stage.For the last, right before the announcement for the Grand Prize, there was applause and cheer shouting Super Junior from the audience.
When members heard it, they didnt seem happy at all.. We all wonder why..These are all very suspicious and different actions and situation compare to other Award ceremony.
However, these reaction things are only assumption so we will not talk about it too much.For ending, I like to cite the Golden Disk Award website, saying..
‘Digital Award’ is the award to let people know which musician was the most loved through out the whole year to meet the trends of the times
where Digital source market is expanding as massive number of people prefers it.
We select winners by fair evaluation according to data provided by reading company that has pure public confidence.
However, because of those reasons and proofs mentioned above (1,2,3), we question that Golden Disk actually select the winners by FAIR evaluation.
So, us, E.L.F (Super Junior Fan Club) demands GDA to reveal the exact standard for each award and prize to the public and reward financial damage especially for Ceci Popular Award votes.E.L.F 슈랑이☆
This is not just some fans whining
According to the data we collected, GDA almost swindle fans out of their money.
We all know it is once in a year ceremony.
People will forget about it and one year later, we will be same fan voting for the same thing, so you might wonder what the big deal about it is
However, if there will be no action taken by GDA even after we spread this evidences and explanation through
we are ready to cope strictly and legally with this matter in regard to right of voters, viewers and all the musicians who attended.
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This is very saddening, but in no way am I surprised. The fact that we have a part in who gets the award is bullshit, everything is decided by SM. And for some reason they have chosen to promote SNSD this year.
Though what I find to be surprising is why they’re sabotaging Suju to put the spotlight on others. Don’t they bring in LOADS of money to the company?
Comment by YassYass— December 11, 2010 #
I think your theory is correct. It makes sense that SM would make SuJu step down in order to put the spotlight on SNSD. It’s always about money in the end. If SNSD can bring in more money, SM isn’t going to worry about anyone’s feelings.
Comment by Claire— December 12, 2010 #
If SM wants more money, I hope they didn’t forget that Super Junior and ELFs has brought them money 5 or 10 times larger than SNSD and their fans.
The result was such a huge slap on our faces especially to our Super Junior when we know they deserved MORE and BETTER than a popularity award.
When I saw the members’ frozen faces and how they suppressed their feelings and reactions, I swear I heard my heart scream in agony.
The words “heartbreaking” and “disappointing” are not enough. *sighs*
Comment by Lee— December 12, 2010 #
thanks sid for this info^____^
please trending #unfairGDA, if u feels something wrong with this golden disk awards 2010. atleast GDA judges or SME have to talk about this and explain it. you can help SJ Market too :
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/7e9ei1
hwaiting ELFs! we need an explanation from them!
Comment by tsuki1010— December 11, 2010 #
this is so unfair and ELF have the right to do so but i am afraid that there is a big possibility if the lawsuit happen suju will be banned from GDA and will never win in gda in the future
Comment by rahma— December 11, 2010 #
when the highest award turns out to be undependable any more..then i guess it doesn’t matter anymore..we can work harder for the grammy if we had to..we’re ELF anyways
Comment by faye— December 12, 2010 #
i don’t know i still think this is will damage suju more than helping them and ELF will be taken as the fans who sue because their idol didn’t win an award.and this is not the end we still have the 5th album KELF and IELF can work extra hard and collaborate even before the album release collecting money and make an explosive sales.and thats will be teuki and chulli rightful gift.
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don’t u think sueing gda will make suju look bad? will make elf look bad? i’m scared if sme will di something to sj
Comment by sapphirethyst— December 11, 2010 #
well here’s the thing…
GDA were rightfully wrong and we arent being whiny and complaining fans (even if others might view us as such).
if soshi won fair and square, then there would not be all this hype about it and ELFs would accept it. but because NOTHING adds up, thats why ELFs are going to take action. AND being swindled of ur money is no small matter, especially in this economy
Comment by claire— December 12, 2010 #
if we made sue file on GDA,justice will follow..suju can go to another company…all sm’s unfairness will revealed..
Comment by miya— December 12, 2010 #
so unfairrrrrrrrr yesung !!!!!!why!!!!
Comment by Hana— December 11, 2010 #
hh.. there’s no word to said..
TTT_____TTT
Comment by merikyu— December 11, 2010 #
Our ELF, its okay.. don’t worry. I know we worked hard for this year because of our Angel is going to enlist in the army next year. I know KoreanELF voted for SuJu in MAMA, and they didnt win, but we still voted for them in GDA. And still, they didn’t win. I know were sorry for not fulfilling Teukie’s last wish before going into the army, i know they’re sad as well for not winning Daesang for us, and for themselves. But hey, they’re always winners. The moment you became an ELF, is the moment Super Junior became winners, forever. And look, they even won the Asian Popularity Award. Isn’t that something? Isn’t that what they deserve more than any other artist? Let’s not bash SNSD or other artist. If we do, how do you think SNSD will face SuJu in the future? They must realize the burden they get from ELF and SONES for fighting with each other, but theyre families. Families dont argue with each other. If they do, they’ll eventually get along with each other. And that’s what we have to do with OUR fellow family. SONES and ELFs are families. We love each other, right? And besides, before Teukie leaves, he’ll still be in 5th Jib. Let’s try our very best and make Super Junior 5th Jib the BEST album ever in South Korea, and send Teukie off with a smile. Shall we?
Comment by ZatyTalib— December 11, 2010 #
Yeah you right! 2 Thumps up for that!
)
We are sujuELF!!!
)
Comment by aqua20— December 12, 2010 #
at least,if a file made to sue GDA..it will called justice..even though GDA is over..we still stand for justice..maybe this can help suju go to another company..
Comment by miya— December 12, 2010 #
what’s 5 jib ? I agree with you !
Comment by wafiqahae~— December 12, 2010 #
their 5th album, if i’m not wrong
Comment by rubyjn— December 14, 2010 #
who bash SNSD?? this is facts.. this is proofs.. that no matter what we do, no matter what efforts we put in.. some people are capable of hurting SJ, some people are capable of sabotaging our boy’s success.. if we don’t take any actions.. this will go on forever.. and swindling is not a simple stuff..
Comment by Marie— December 12, 2010 #
I agree. I’m a new ELF and SONE. I’m sad to see fanwars between these 2 about the GDA stuffs. Many are bashing SONEs and SNSD because they said SNSD shouldn’t have won. I’m thinking about quitting being an elf and a sone because of this.=( why blame SNSD? It’s not like they force people to let them win this year. ):
Comment by Missoxygen— December 12, 2010 #
@missoxygen : ELFs didn’t blame SNSD but GDA..
It’s not only about Daesang but Ceci Award and Digital Award that should be to give to Suju and Yesung.. =.=
And if you quit become ELFs.. I and ELFs really disappointed of you.. You just say ELF is only ELF.. You don’t know what the meaning of ELF.. ELF is Ever Lasting Friends if you don’t want become friends for ever lasting then don’t be an ELF.. Your words make me sad as an ELFs..
Comment by Donghae Lover— December 13, 2010 #
This makes me angry. No matter what SM or GDA is/was planning on…. If there’S VOTE involved it should be done DEMOGRATICLY and FAIRLY and even if the Votes take only 50% (or less) of dicion the reasons of the judged should be Stated! What’s all this? This is like some lame fake action. SNSD…it’s not their fault and they can’t be really happy about the award, because they know as well thats it’s unfair. Suju is sad, because it’s unfair. Follow Artist know about this fakeness and unfairness as well… So what is that award all about? If a award is not based on facts it garbage. -.-
Comment by nn— December 11, 2010 #
Sigh.
But I’m glad that the comments on this article aren’t bashing SNSD. Remember guys, the girls didn’t choose to recieve this award, and were really surprised when their name was announced.
But this is really fishy.
I feel so sorry for them. I think Suju really deserved it this year, cause of all the things they had to go through this year…
Comment by Rooroo— December 11, 2010 #
but i guess if they knew all these articles..they shouldn’t feel proud of the award
Comment by faye— December 12, 2010 #
Go sj-market I’m support you..
ELF = EVER LASTING FRIENDS..
“FRIENDS” is to support each other..
If Korea-ELF get hurt then Internasional-ELF get hurt too. That’s why we are called friends.. Remember it?
In MAMA Suju even didn’t get an award, ELF still keep quiet n calm down even we know that unfair and vote without regret.. N Now GDA, ELF get cheat too by GDA n lost a lot of money n fight for yesung till last minute to keep yesung first place in digital award vote, when Suju didn’t get award what should they get, then ELF n members Suju only cry n say sorry even not their fault.. TILL WHEN WE KEEP SILENT? FOREVER? DO YOU WANT IT? *crying now* T.T
Comment by DongHae Lover— December 11, 2010 #
We scared, How if GDA banned Suju? Oh C’mon guys.. Did we do something wrong? Did we cheat the vote or album sales? Did we steal someone money to pay phonecall/wireless for vote? NO.. Then why should we scared? The One should scared is GDA (Another unfair too), NOT US..
It’s not about award things again. But it’s about our friends that crying and got scold by stupid award ceremony.. They make our love and effort as a joke. Do you like it? Huh.. T.T .. GDA steal our friends money n give our friends hope but broke it.. MAMA n GDA did that, then not surprise the next another award ceremony doing that too to ELFs+Suju if we keep silent..
Comment by DongHae Lover— December 11, 2010 #
How if this make a bad name for ELFs/Suju? Oh C’mon again guys, ELFs too nice, they give an petition to GDA and only ask explenation how GDA count and even didn’t kick GDA staffs that night. This is even better to do than we say harst comment to sone/snsd/sm/gda/mnet cause all not clear rumors (example: sm order gda to give daesang to snsd not suju, cause wanna increase snsd popularity in internasional). right?
Sorry for my bad english.. T.T
will be Continue tommorow.
Comment by DongHae Lover— December 11, 2010 #
I hope GDA gets the shit sued out of them.
Comment by iCarolina__— December 11, 2010 #
you are right!! everyone KNEW that super junior was going to win,, even the spotlight was towards them. i will support korean elfs 100% even if they were to sue GDA. i don’t give a shit anymore, snsd shouldn’t be happy about this because they didn’t actually win. more like super junior had to give up their award for them -.-
Comment by kara— December 12, 2010 #
are u crazy?..if elf sued them DO U REALLY THINK SUJU GONNA GET ANY AWARD NEXT YEAR THEN?…think!
Comment by yokuo— December 12, 2010 #
@yokuo SUJU didn’t get award what should give to them this year.. So what the different about next year?
Can you think about Korea-ELF feels? They work hard to get money and spend a lot of money to vote and bought album Suju, even vote for Yesung.. Can you just simpaty for your friends? If you don’t know how hard to get money, ask your parent how their get money.. I even not have enough money to operation for my one family who get sick.. if GDA not respond this, I prefer ELFs collecting money to donated named of SUJU next year than vote in GDA..
I can move on with MAMA cause they only free vote, but GDA is using ELFs money but GDA keep pretending not hear and see..
Sorry, I want you to think about another ELFs too..
Comment by haewi_lovesujumore— December 13, 2010 #
@yokuo SUJU didn’t get award what should give to them this year.. So what the different about next year?
Can you think about Korea-ELF feels? They work hard to get money and spend a lot of money to vote and bought album Suju, even vote for Yesung.. Can you just simpaty for your friends? If you don’t know how hard to get money, ask your parent how their get money.. I even not have enough money to operation for my one family who get sick.. if GDA not respond this, I prefer ELFs collecting money to donated named of SUJU next year than vote in GDA..
I can move on with MAMA cause they only free vote, but GDA is using ELFs money but GDA keep pretending not hear and see..
Sorry, I want you to think about another ELFs too…
Comment by Donghae Lover— December 13, 2010 #
Got that damn straight!
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I think us ELFs need to think carefully before we try to take any drastic actions with regards to the GDA. In the event that there is concrete proof of some sort of unfairness on the part of the judging or the calculation, then ELFs have a strong case. But this unfairness needs to be looked into with calm, cool and rational heads. We cannot charge into this with indignance and self-righteousness, because the cruel reality is that people will see us as being hot-headed and downright biased. Is this what we want in backlash? What if it jeopardises Suju’s chances at future awards, performance and cf opportunities, etc?
In addition, I think our main aim is still to love and support Suju, regardless of whether they win awards. I would like to think that we bought these albums because we support Suju’s music and we respect the work they do. I would like to think we didn’t just buy copies so that they could get on music charts and win awards. Even if Suju doesn’t win these awards, their album sales are still very important to their ability to continue signing contracts to stay in the entertainment industry. Their ability to sign on with SME, or any management company for that matter, is sitll linked highly to their commercial viability. At least we can protect our boys in that area.
In addition, what is the outcome we want from a verification of GDA judging? Even if we find that something was truly fishy and that Suju deserved to win, do we think the boys will truly be happy with that belated win? They will not be happy to take the award from their dongsaengs and hoobaes Soshi who have worked very hard. Even if there are some of us who dislike Soshi or are jealous of them, we must be thankful that because of these dongsaengs and hoobaes, our Suju oppas have friends, even sibilings in this dog-eat-dog industry. We should not spoil their friendships with these girls.
Our Suju is strong enough to bear a setback like this one. They have shown us time and again the ability to climb back from where they have fallen. I believe we can help them by not over-hyping this issue, so that they can put this behind them more quickly.
Comment by bismut— December 12, 2010 #
i agree with you suju still have more opportunities in the future and our love and support for them will grow year by year for them for their music not just to win awards.i really think this might damage suju image and future activities more than helping them and we ELF don’t want to be the reason to bring damage to suju.
Comment by rahma— December 12, 2010 #
i love this: As you see Super Junior already dominate the market world wide over Asia.
Therefore, It is hard to understand why judges would evaluate the value of Super Junior less then SNSD.
So true!
Comment by hy— December 12, 2010 #
They looked disappointed and even cried so they themselves know that they deserve to get that award but for some reasons, it wasn’t given to them ;( I hope this will be sorted out soon ’cause this isn’t just fighting what SJ ought to have but as well as GDA’s credibility because of unfairly judging.
Comment by xyz— December 12, 2010 #
SM is an ass for manipulating everything
Truth will be prevailed
Comment by juney— December 12, 2010 #
I saw many elf said let’s move on in twitter. I was like. WE WORKED SO HARD AND YOU SAY MOVE ON?! sorry I can’t. poor kelf. their cellphone bill.
Comment by belle— December 12, 2010 #
GO Korean ELF!! We’re on your back and will support you no matter what, they owe us an explanation over all this unfairness of judgment. We’ve buy the disks by bulk order and wait more then two month to actually get the disk to make sure it will count on Hanteo Record so our boys can win but those bullshit has left us with nothing and a tears from our beloved boys, who cares if we get banned? Because if they did that, that’s mean there is something wrong with it, what we demand is only an explanation and the truth.
SME has been unfair to our SuJu boys far too long, how they promotes the other group more then our boys but statistics show how our boys is the one who kept their company well profits all these years with all the oversea selling records and endorsement, acting, MC-ing, DJ-ing and modeling. For now, only SJ has their own Asia Tour Concerts Super Show with sold out ticket in every venues they attends and that show how big they are…there’s no need to promote them to Europe, America and even Emirates when they already well known and popular in those country without even been there…
So ELF let fighting for our boys right, we are their friends and together we can bring them justice.
Comment by MizChip— December 12, 2010 #
I like your comment! <3
I just saw a pic of Heechul pointing middle finger during GDA!lol damn funny, but it also means that Heechul know the unfairness behind all these, that's y he did that during such a formal ceremony. Our Heechul is Heechul, got the guts!
Maybe SNSD sunny is Lee Soo Man's niece, that's y snsd is promoted like crazy this yr. But they still can't beat suju in terms of popularity!
Comment by lb— December 12, 2010 #
I just saw that pic! Hell, yeah! Hell, they all know that was some bullsh*t!!!! That is gonna be my new background for my phone.
Comment by EvilValenStrife— December 12, 2010 #
wait can you show me the pic? That’s awesome~
Comment by miinah— December 12, 2010 #
LOL, I saw that, but you guys know that wasn’t his middle finger? It was his ring finger, but either way, I think he was trying to give that message.
Comment by bucketgurrl— December 12, 2010 #
it makes me think though ,,, did SM is behind all these or the GDA management team .. or watever team ..
but urghh ,, i’m so sad . seriously , eventhough suju looked HAPPY i don’t really think they treat them well . Maybe suju is happy with their life now but they deserved more . I remember Eunhyuk n Eeteuk said , they have to work even harder than most groups bcos of the total member . And i think they deserved more . Didn’t SUPER JUNIOR got popular first than snsd? but i don’t want to bring up snsd’s name here . I just hope that Super Junior can deserved better treatment better after this .
Comment by FaRaH— December 12, 2010 #
I understand some ELF’s concern. They are worried that if the K-ELF really sue GDA, it may affect future participation of SJ in GDA. But if you view this matter on another point of view, if ELF dont do something about it. GDA committee will keep on being unfair to SJ. And things may be the same in the next year too.
ELF only want explanation on this matter. We only want justice.
Comment by eunhae-— December 12, 2010 #
and this involves money issues too. ELF spend lots of money,not to say lots of effort too,buying the albums and for phone voting. GDA should provide evidences and explanation that SNSD indeed did win the award fairly.
GDA thinks that they can bully ELF easily. We shouldnt let them continue this kind of unfair acts.
Comment by eunhae-— December 12, 2010 #
I absolutely agree! They have to know that there are consequences when you mess with SJ boys. Just ain’t right to do that crap to them
Comment by Nilly— December 12, 2010 #
Go SJ Market. let’s make these things clear.
Comment by NT— December 12, 2010 #
I’m not bashing them the 9 girls coz of Dae Sang award,,but if u can really see SUJU’s work hard even when they have to miss their 3 members, they keep going on… they keep go with Bonamana n No other.. but how come?? the 9 girls won when they only sell their belly?? their legs?? without any work hard?? SUJU is the best BB in SMent after DBSK!!!! n none can deny it!!!~~
Comment by elena— December 12, 2010 #
I believe our boys flashed a lot of skin this year with Bonamana and their W Korea shoot as well… DBSK showed a lot of abs as well in songs like Mirotic. It’s about the concept and projected image, I don’t think it’s fair to have a double standard for female artistes, esp if we are girls ourselves. There’s surely a lot of hard work that goes into dancing into heels, and promoting 3 korean and 2 japanese songs in one year and we don’t know much about this, so it’s not quite fair for us to compare the girls and our boys…
Comment by bismuth— December 12, 2010 #
snsd forgot to thank their plastic surgeons during their speech. oops, wat a major left-out. imagine their husbands’ expressions when their babies turn out ntg like their mums. lol
Comment by ll— December 12, 2010 #
^they havent done surgery, fany just looks like her mum if you didnt know her,… the rest, look a their pre-debut pics pls.
Comment by uranidiot— February 7, 2011 #
“After SNSD went up the stage for the prize, other musicians come to Super Junior, not SNSD, and hugged them.
We all know Super Junior has lots of friends but still it is weird that everyone hugged Super Junior while there is actually winner on the stage.”
HAAAA~! My immediate thought after reading this was “BOOYAH!”. Yes… There is something very fishy about GDA ¬¬. Yesung should have totally won the Digital Award for ‘It has to be you’ T_______T. Sigh…
Comment by Karen— December 12, 2010 #
[...] SJ-MARKET.. EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.. ~ GDA NOT LEGIT! (via Super Junior) Posted on December 12, 2010 by ndblueberry those who don't know… Super Junior should have won the DaeSang of 2010 – uksujusid Source: HERE – Written by: 곧잉어 First of all, I like to make sure this is all writen by fan of Super Junior. The first and the only intention of this is asking appropriate apology and compensation to Golden Disk Awards 2010 according to some doubtful points brougth up about award standard, so hopefully there will not be any misunderstanding or unpleasant dispute … Read More [...]
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ELF!support super junior is what we should do!we can’t stay and do nothing on this case!!!express our feelings to SM and all the people!
Comment by Cay— December 12, 2010 #
how come!!!??? we need an explain!!!!! ELFs have the proof.
i will never accept the results this year.
Comment by cindyyu(hongkong)— December 12, 2010 #
OMG ! This is soooo unfair ! I always hated snsd and this made me hate them even more ! Super junior truly deserve the GDA award they are more successful than those girls ! And we E.L.F tried our best to make Super Junior happy in 2010 cuz u know how miserable they were from turning from 13 members to 10 members ! And now they became even miserable and sad again =”( i feel really guilty and i want to cry ! If i was the one that gives the awards i would have crushed snsd and gave the award to Super Junior ~ ELF + Super Junior = One <3 Super junior u didnt win thr GDA awards but u won all the elfs heart from around the world ! And cooool they announced that suju is popular in Arab states ! Im an arab elf hehe ;D SUPER JUNIOR IS THE BEST !!
Comment by Super Junior E.L.F— December 12, 2010 #
As a Sone i became part of ELF after some ELF came and congrat us SONE for snsd winning award.So i thought that ELF are nice and i should be family with them like SNSD and SUJU But After Reading this i realized that not all ELF is nice afterall. After reading most of the post, i realized you ELF think that SNSD did not put in any hardwork at all. After reading so many nasty comments i really feel sad. After all of this i think the image of SUJU and ELF totally changes
Comment by NothingToSay— December 12, 2010 #
ELF are not blaming SNSD they are blaming GDA and if you read the article yesung situation is even worse because he top lee sung ge in both sales and vote but still he didn’t get it
Comment by rahma— December 12, 2010 #
I’m not an ELF myself but I know that ELFs don’t blame SNSD or think badly of them because they won the Daesang award! Of course they worked hard as well ^^ ELFs are blaming the Golden Disk Awards for being unfair, and they want an explation to why GDA gave the award to SNSD and not Super Junior
ELFs think of SuJu and SNSD as family so they don’t hate them
Comment by AnN— December 12, 2010 #
yup.we’re not blaming SNSD.^^please dont misundertood.^^ me,behalf of ELF around the world,sying sorry for bashing SNSD.its not their fault.SNSD worked hard too.but,we want explanation from GDA after all this evidence.whu SUJU didnt win?
Comment by me— December 13, 2010 #
SJ-Market.. I finally thank you for the clarification.. now the Award may also get bad reputation for letting us down too >.<
Comment by Seungeun— December 12, 2010 #
[...] those who don't know… Super Junior should have won the DaeSang of 2010 – uksujusid Source: HERE – Written by: 곧잉어 First of all, I like to make sure this is all writen by fan of Super Junior. The first and the only intention of this is asking appropriate apology and compensation to Golden Disk Awards 2010 according to some doubtful points brougth up about award standard, so hopefully there will not be any misunderstanding or unpleasant dispute … Read More [...]
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ha..this is funny…before i totally support plus agree with this but
.somehow after reading this ..the article seems a bit biased…and now ELF are trying to blame everything including SM not the GDA itself… very open minded fans here i see
Comment by lol— December 12, 2010 #
Wait! You trying to make funny of Us?
Comment by KibuMichelle— December 14, 2010 #
i have been an ELF for a long time but also a SONE…at first im proud to be and ELF..but after reading all this article tht came out after founding out tht suju didnt win ONE award show and all the comments… saying SNSD is good but suju is better? when i bet the people who wrote tht doesnt even like SNSD?….
I quit….this fandom is disgusting…
Comment by yokuo— December 12, 2010 #
To be honest, I don’t think you ever were really an ELF because if you were, then you would understand that we’re not trying to bash anyone. If SNSD had won obviously and fair and square, we wouldn’t have a problem, because we could have seen it coming. The thing is, Super Junior was leading the whole time and everyone, even others artists and fans of other artists, thought they were a shoe-in to win. Not all of us are trying to say that SNSD didn’t work hard or is a terrible group. I actually like SNSD’s songs. It’s just that GDA changed their rules at the last minute which is why everyone is upset now, so don’t call us disgusting for just noticing that something was wrong. I don’t necessarily think we should try to sue GDA or anything because it would ruin SJ’s image.
Either way, I guess this event has shown who Super Junior’s real fans are, so if you want to leave the fandom, go ahead, but don’t call us disgusting when you’re not even looking at what’s really going on here.
Comment by bucketgurrl— December 13, 2010 #
its not like what you think dear,,,
if u wanna leave,, so just leave,,, do not bashing elf,, cause elf never bash anyone,, and u have no qualification to became an elf,,,
Comment by miahae— December 13, 2010 #
Nah, ELF is never bash anyone!! If you want to quit, just go !! You really don’t know what the meaning of everlasting friend. When your ELF friends is still fighting to reveal the true, and you just quit, I think you really never know the sacrifice of ELF and have no qualified to call ELF.
Comment by KibuMichelle— December 14, 2010 #
#GDA Please give us a satisfactory explanation, publish all data, don’t fool us, & return justice to #SUJU . From(Kit13)(Taiwan) #ELF
Comment by Kit— December 12, 2010 #
… damn it !!! damn GDA .!!!. hell YOU !!!!!!!!
Comment by audrey— December 12, 2010 #
wow…there are many arguments here…,,reading once by once making me more know about ourself,,hard people and calm people,,truthfully i hate SNSD win,and wanna Suju win,,suju have tweet their feelings after GDA,it’s really sad,they have many problems during this year,,Suju are really strong until the GDA make them patient decrease much,suju crying,,i was sad but still congratulate SNSD and Soshi,,we’re sad but no matter what suju still the winning of our heart,,SMe did many contra but we’re still family,,
Comment by nime— December 12, 2010 #
I think if the award is rigged cuz probably to help SNSD success in Japan, Kara is kicking their butt right now by chosen as best rookie by Rechoku, got 4 RAJ certification, film 2 CFs, ahead in profits and CD, starting their own show. Obviously SNSD been behind so SM thought this would help boost them….god and SJ have to get hit cuz of this…this is BS. i feel bad for them, they’re the first kpop group i know. Hope they get the recognition they deserve.
Comment by Hana— December 12, 2010 #
Honestly, if this were true, SM went about it the wrong way. I don’t know if it’s just me, but I honestly don’t care whether a group won an award. It’s not going to make me want to listen to them more.
Comment by Rainie— December 13, 2010 #
No one bashed SNSD.This is the hardcore facts.I’m not hating on SNSD,but I know that our Super Junior rightfully deserved the award.ElFS are mature and they don’t bash on SONES because it just makes us look bad.All we want is that Teukie go into the army with a smile,and be safe.And also,Super Junior members were also very disappointed and upset cause they didn’t win,when they actually should have.We can’t let our boys be upset because of something THIS unfair.They all worked so hard.SM is just an ass -.-
Comment by EienNi— December 12, 2010 #
Are you guys should that you guys never bash SNSD at all? snsd forgot to thank their plastic surgeons during their speech. oops, wat a major left-out. imagine their husbands’ expressions when their babies turn out ntg like their mums. lol <—- Wrote by your fellow mature ELF. IF YOU GUYS WANT A EXPLANATION FOR GDA, DO YOU NEED TO POST SUCH COMMENTS?
Comment by NothingToSay— December 13, 2010 #
well there’s probably some truth in it. And sones oso bash elfs for being jealous n stuff. no matter wat ppl say or who bash who, Suju deserves the award more than snsd. period.
can’t understand y ppl say snsd album sales higher than suju. Suju has WORLD TOP 4 sales, 5th position is Gaga. Don’t see snsd anywhere on world chart… just tat GDA manipulated counting to favour the 9 girls. fine, there’s no justice anywhere
Comment by genie— December 13, 2010 #
[...] those who don't know… Super Junior should have won the DaeSang of 2010 – uksujusid Source: HERE – Written by: 곧잉어 First of all, I like to make sure this is all writen by fan of Super Junior. The first and the only intention of this is asking appropriate apology and compensation to Golden Disk Awards 2010 according to some doubtful points brougth up about award standard, so hopefully there will not be any misunderstanding or unpleasant dispute … Read More [...]
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ok,we’re not bashing SNSD here.im not a sones and i hate SNSD,but please dont bashing them.they worked hard too.yes,SJ should win,but,we dont want the trophy anymore becauese it has lost the ”awards” meaning to us,we just want explanation from GDA regarding this.why sj didnt win?and dont call us disgusting,because you are mway more a disgusting person! *to those who called us disgusting* and to those who said ”im leaving his fandom,oh,i was wrong to like SJ and to be an ELF,blah blah blah” then actually you are not an ELF.you dont even like super junior.then,just keep you mouth shut!! Super Junior belongs to ELF,ELF belong to Super Junior,we locked in promise.we’ll never betray each other forever.dont say you once an ELF,but after reading this,you’re leaving this fandom because you’re not an ELF!!ELF are loyal,and promise to protect each other.! and about the law suit,i asked my korean friend,she said,the law suit has nothing to do with SJ,but they want to sue GDA,because GDA had cheated/lied their money ok?and another KELF said,her father is a lawyer and her father said GDA cant do anything about that because they cheated their money.ok then?
p/s : dont bash SNSD ,ELF.^^
Comment by me— December 13, 2010 #
k,we’re not bashing SNSD here.im not a sones and i hate SNSD,but please dont bash them.they worked hard too.yes,SJ should win,but,we dont want the trophy anymore because it has lost the ”awards” meaning to us,we just want explanationS from GDA regarding this.why sj didnt win?and dont call us disgusting,because you are way more a disgusting person! *to those who called us disgusting* and to those who said ”im leaving This fandom,oh,i was wrong to like SJ and to be an ELF,blah blah blah” then actually you are not an ELF.you dont even like super junior.then,just keep youR mouth shut!! Super Junior belongs to ELF,ELF belongS to Super Junior,we locked in promise.we’ll never betray each other forever.dont say you once an ELF,but after reading this,you’re leaving this fandom because you’re not an ELF!!ELF are loyal,and promise to protect each other.! and about the law suit,i asked my korean friend,she said,the law suit has nothing to do with SJ,but they want to sue GDA,because GDA had cheated/lied their money ok *because they need to pay for the CECI award when they wote*?and another KELF said,her father is a lawyer and her father said GDA cant do anything about that because they cheated their money.ok then?
p/s : dont bash SNSD ,ELF.^^
Comment by me— December 13, 2010 #
Thank you so much for addressing this!!! i was so surprised when i saw that Super Junior only won 2 awards too…
even at the MAMAs… their awards went to 2PM and 2ne1 just because Super Junior couldn’t be there because of the conflict between SM and Mnet…
Comment by SujuSarang4Eveer— December 13, 2010 #
go go korean elf,, i really hate anyone hurt uri members heart,,, its totally unfair,,, elf+suju=one #unfairgda
Comment by miahae— December 13, 2010 #
SUPER JUNIOR WAS OBVIOUSLY THE WINNER ! HOW COULD THEY NOT GIVE ITTO THEM ! poor teukie
Comment by lee siew yee— December 13, 2010 #
I hate to say this, but it is a fact that SJ is well past their prime as an idol group. We all know that, but whether some of you choose to ignore that… is your prerogative. This is the same reason why so many of them are moving into acting, musicals etc. When LeeTeuk enters the army next year, SJ will, at best, be put on hiatus while the rest do their own stuff. The worst case scenario? We might never see SJ perform together ever again.
I’m two-minded about this intended action by SJ-Market. While I don’t love SNSD, I really do like a couple of the members and their songs. And SNSD is now in their prime; they are THE money-spinners for SM Ent now and have a couple of good years more to go. I’m not saying its right, but they are all probably thinking ‘why bother giving the grand award to a waning group reaching the end of its life-span?’
Is what we are about to do going to help SJ in any way? Or are we going to give them a bad name again? Don’t forget, the Only-13 campaign left a very bad aftertaste and ELFs are almost exclusively known to be highly irrational. I do not want to hurt SJ anymore. Perhaps its best to let things sort out by itself without demanding for an explanation. If the rigging is true, think of how SNSD feels every time they face SJ – I think that is punishment enough already.
I know what I say is not going to change anything. I just wanted to serve as a rationale voice with a balanced view.
Comment by elnath— December 13, 2010 #
If GDA really think that way about Uri SuJu, it means GDA is totally unfair, you know. So, what’s that about Teukie is going to army? So what If SUJU reaching the end of life-span? Just because because some childish point of view means SuJu’s not worth it? We talk about SuJu effort here, they commitment, and they hard working, and it’s all break just because Teukie entering the army and then they not have rights to own it? What a dick!! ELF didn’t want that award back, maybe some want, but most of we just need an explanation and want GDA reveal the truth. How could you can think that way, eventhough is just some sort of description of what’s on that GDA staff mind???
Comment by KibuMichelle— December 14, 2010 #
i do agree with u on some of the points u made. but not the “reaching life-span thing’. well maybe half of it. their “life-span” may end already or coming to an end but they just got started INTERNATIONALLY. the word ‘idol’ imo, in korea only refers to their age, (proof: i’ve seen and heard enough about ppl teasing leeteuk’s age and its past his prime time..im too lazy to search for the videos but yes its true) internationally however fans dont think being an “idol” is about their age. its how fans look up to them. evidence is stated above, im talking about how they are famous in BRAZIL AND ARAB those are this year. i know we have diff opinion and im not blaming you for having your own becoz i have mind and voicing mind too.
Comment by thruthhurts— December 20, 2010 #
this is truly unfair for suju, did SME forget that suju was the one who loads all the money for them in the past 5 years, why they do such things to our Oppa’s,.. what is the meaning of voting if they have allready arranged the winners. did u see uri Oppa faces when SNSD were announced to be the winner, their all dissapointed, not dissapointed cause they didnt get the award but i bet they were dissapointed because they were betrayed by their own label. about the “life-span”, i know every idol will end up “life-span” soon or later but that doesnt mean SME or GDA can do those things to our suju Oppa’s, i believe as an ELF that this is not the end for them but its just the beginning. as an Indonesian ELF i will always support super junior untill super junior himself bored of us. this is my promise and i hope its our
Comment by mia— December 23, 2010 #
Guys, a fans of Lee Seung Gi, send me 3 link that proove Lee Seung Gi is rite to win digital award/more qualified that Yesung,, they have data from soribada, melon etc~ is that also count for selling digital category? Hope admin,,U guys help me to learn this data,,thanx,,
it’ll be great if U can send it to SJ Market (coz, I’m not a member already)
here is the link:
http://lsgairenint.tumblr.com/post/2184044989/12-12-2010-this-is-the-fact-part-3
http://lsgairenint.tumblr.com/post/2163267293/10-12-2010-clarification-from-dclsg-about-seung-gis#notes
http://lsgairenint.tumblr.com/post/2174497472/11-12-2010-this-is-the-fact
(I really need U’r help)
thank U~
Comment by puchicatos— December 13, 2010 #
haha..sorry puchicatos…i read wrongly…u said a fan of seung gi
erm….im not sure whether im in the right place to voice out my opinion but I dont mind you all say that GDA is unfair etc etc but please do not doubt or start talking about any other artists in the winning list…THANK YOU!
Comment by LsgAirenInt— December 13, 2010 #
He..he..he…
I guess,, I use wrong word,
I’m not that good in english
sorry for got U wrong~
Comment by puchicatos— December 14, 2010 #
Honestly..HONESTLY.. I’m a die-hard ELF since like forever, but I want all the other ELFs to just shut up. I mean..yeah, we can say GDA was unfair and everything is fishy but please..get over it. I know K-ELFs poured lots of money for the voting but geez..please everyone don’t take it too far–don’t take it to the court or telling people that we will. Please, even the other fanclubs aren’t cool with this. ELFs have a bad reputation already and this will worsen things and might affect SuJu’s image as well. I know how it feels to be cheated on but sometimes all we can do is let go and move on. Suing will lead on to more complications and complications will lead to more misunderstandings..do you think SuJu will want that?? This is touching. Really. It’s touching that we are doing our best to make our boys happy but please.. Please. Let’s just move on shall we? If GDA (or SME) were really at fault here..well they’ll meet their doom sooner or later right. But please. People. Let’s just..let go. And support our boys MORE next year. This like a slap in the face huh? But I guess it’s also kinda a good sign. Because of the whole GDA thing..all our love for SuJu was unified and seen by the whole world. And let’s just keep it that way..please? Thank you.
Comment by Q.— December 13, 2010 #
I’m an ELF, and like thousand other ELF worldwide, I cried so hard when they lost. I really thought that they would get the award because they were obviously leading. Okay, so now I don’t really know what to believe. I understand other ELF’s feelings, and reasons for spreading things like these but… I just wish we’d all move on. This whole thing is just making us (as a whole) look desperate. And look, the boys have moved on, and they’re going on with their lives, still working hard and all that. I think we should do the same. It’s really not good to dwell on the past. Let’s just look forward to the future, to what it would bring us, to what we could in our lives, may it be related to Super Junior or not.
I’m upset, too and I’m torn about this whole thing. I love Super Junior and I wish we could have fulfilled their wish, but we couldn’t and we should just accept it. I think what matters is that we know we did our best, we know they could have won that award fair and square, and we know that more than anything, our only purpose for doing all those things, is because we love Teukie and the whole group, and we only wanted to make them happy. They might not have gotten the award, but that’s not the end of everything. As long as we stay strong and be by their side, we still have hope for better years to come.
Sigh. Sorry for the long comment. I have so much more to say but I’m rambling. -_-
Comment by Mia— December 13, 2010 #
Let’s Protect our SUJU oppas!!!!!!
i don’t want them to get tricked….
i want them to be well treated….
by the treatment that should be given to them…….
not the unfairness of the stupid awards…..!!!
I hate GDA!!!!and eveything that harms Our SUJU!!!!
so please let the ELF know the truth…..
GDA!!!please speak up!!!
give us evidences !!!!!!
Don’t let your good name become low as low as murderers……
PLEASE Be FAIR!!!!!!
it’s ok if SUJU really lost….
but DON’T make up story!!!!!!
give us PROOFS…….
SUPER JUNIOR is THE BEST……
even after the end of the day………
SUPER JUNIOR is still THE BEST of ALL!!!!
Comment by lilopoia— December 13, 2010 #
The issue here is not about whether SJ got cheated or ELFs got cheated…It’s about integrity and credibility ..I salute the K-ELF for standing up to their rights..They need to make a statement as what they said was true..they spent money for all those votes so where was the actual results..? All they wanted was an explanation from the relevant authorities, no harm in that..!Unless it was proven otherwise and how they were misled, this thing will continue to go on..When K-ELF made their point, it not only help SJ, it will also help other musicians..knowing that the awards they will receive in future are based on real facts and not on the wimp of some higher up..or just based on sympathy..Those musicians who received those awards with a questional background will not be happy knowing that they won by default or favouritism of the judges..
go K-ELF make your presence felt..!!
Comment by garnetblue— December 13, 2010 #
i dont know why, i’m sone but i’m elf too. i’m so sad why you guys seems dont accept it. is it snsd fault that they can win gda? i also read comment that “snsd should not to be proud if they know about this” why you guys seems that snsd’s winning couldn’t be accepted?
one thing that you guys have to comprehend, elf and sone are family, from one company, but what you guys writing here, just like sone and snsd are enemy for suju and elf.
i also read “the other group give superjunior hug while the winner is on stage” well, are other group forbidden to give them hug? why? maybe other group express their sympathy for super junior cause they cannot win gda, because last year suju’s the winner, that’s it, why you make other group hugging super junior as a big problem?!
one thing that i see from GDA, suju is supporting their hoobae so much. when snsd win, suju came to their place, even i know that they’re so disappointed, but they still give a congratulate to their hoobae. so, why elf cant do the same to sone? although all elf are disappointed, why you cant forget it and give sone congratulation? maybe with that attitude, we can be a good-hearted fandom, wise fandom.
maybe you say that i was wrong because what i write here is kinda protecting snsd, i’m sorry, i just say what i want to say.
Comment by miss. apple— December 13, 2010 #
im really sure that it’s not snsd’s fault. SJ and SNSD are family, ELF and SONE are family. I can wholehearted congrats SNSD if stated clearly till the details that it was fair.
I don’t hate SNSD, sorry if it looks like i can’t accept their winning. I just need ‘explanation’.
Comment by nabilauriel— December 15, 2010 #
If you guys want to continue bashing SNSD here. GAME ON. First thing first, If you guys dont believe that Oh is better then Bonamana you guys can go youtube and see the views yourself, it has 10 million of different in views. Second, If you think that SNSD win because Sm let them win to make them famous of whatever shit you guys accuse them off, Let pretent is true. Which mean SJ won last year could be SM Letting them win because to make them famous. Thirdly, If you guys think that you fellow ELF are Angel that do not bash others please read all the comments here. Of Course i not saying that everyone did, but there is still a number that do so. Lastly, Thanks all ELFs that make peace, Hate all ELFs that hate SNSD and seriously it take alot for me to write these. Word of advise, If you guys continue to be obsessed with GDA and hurt people along the way. There will be alot more of me writing these down here. PS i dont hate SJ YET
Comment by NothingToSay— December 13, 2010 #
It doesn’t matter how many views they have… because… if it does do you think DBSK is unpopular seeing how their views are even less than Super Junior themselves? No. Its not about the views…plus this year SME isn’t promoted Super Junior, hence the low budget mv and their korean titled MV which makes it hard for fans to get to watch the mv. By the way, if youtube wasn’t blocked in China then Super Junior would have more views than your SNSD. Also ELFs…as we said a billion times already…aren’t bashing SNSD about them “stealing” the award from Super Junior. its obvious that all ELFs are dedicated to Super Junior like SONEs to SNSD.. we all worked hard to get them to first place or get the biggest award of the night. As you can see the awards were suppose to be Super junior’s and Yesung’s not SNSD or Lee Seung Gi but GDA seems to changed their minds last minute… not blaming SNSD. We’re not bashing or hating we just want to know the truth. I don’t care if you hate SJ or not because theirs millions of others ELFs versus a hater like you. ELFs want just want their justice. if this happened to your SNSD I’m sure SONEs would do the same thing.
Comment by Hyukkie92— December 13, 2010 #
i forgot to mention that its not that we just want the truth about this whole unfairness of GDA its because K-ELFs also need their money back because quite OBVIOUSLY Super Junior had the highest selling album this year. Apparently some SONEs here just cant accept the fact that Super Junior has the top selling albums this year. GDA was unfair…they didn’t give Super JUnior their rightful awards, and K-ELFs wasted their money with this unfairness. Obviously you SONEs and possibly Lee Seung Gi fans didn’t read this whole thing propertly. We are trying to get justice and in K-ELFs case..they want their money back since GDA didn’t give the award to the actual winner. We’re not bashing SNSD. Go ahead and think we are..ELFs know themselves that we are not bashing any artists. SONEs are taking it the wrong way.
Comment by Hyukkie92— December 13, 2010 #
LOl If youtube is blocked in china , you think only SJ will get less view? ELF only know how Great Sj are , How Popular Sj are , Sj is the best and think that SNSD will never win against Sj. And Btw GDA is a grand event that not hosted by Sm. So you think Sm Can decide who to win? If So Why do people from Mnet and other company still going to GDA then? Since Sm can control who win , they will just let all Sm company people win. And you all think that Sm Moved SJ to let SNSD have the Spotlight? Remember this if SM can do this to SJ this year which mean Last Year Sm moved someone away so that Sj can have the spotlight last year. You guys think that you guys are not bashing anyone here, But trust me 10/10 SONES read all this comment will feel offended because you guys feel that SNSD is unworthly to the award.
Comment by NothingToSay— December 14, 2010 #
ah..GDA makes two big fandoms’ war
Comment by nabilauriel— December 15, 2010 #
If there were a ‘like’ button, this would be the only comment I’d ‘like’.
Comment by Jay— December 20, 2010 #
I don’t think I ever said that SM decides the “who should have won this year’s GDA Daesang”….even if SM did decide or bribe GDA ..it would be stupid; SJ and SNSD being in the same company would be a win win situation for the company if wither one had won. You should really re-read what I say. Last year was quite obviously SJ’s win…They didn’t count SNSD’s mini albums but only Full albums last year.. but this year they seemed to add SNSD’s mini album to the album charts. This may come to the conclusion that GDA counted both their full albums, possibly repackaged, and mini album. While SJ; they only added Version A and C[repackaged] because they couldn’t have added version B since its practically the same list of songs…which makes this whole thing unfair. Also last year there wasn’t any artist that could have caught with SJ..obviously 2PM just started to get popular just like SNSD. Big Bang and DBSK was on hiatus.. I dont any other popular idol groups would be able to catch up with SJ. We are not saying SJ is the best of all kpop idols..that seems to be SONEs thing..obviously..I see SONEs say that all the time everywhere….-_-Anyways..I dont care if 10/10 SONEs feel offended its actually because they are jealous of the fact that..this page..shows all evidence of SJ needed to win Daesang and Digital Award[in Yesung's case] and also SJ should have won Ceci popularity awards; ehem SHINee and SJ top two places; all 100% fan votes. Also this doesn’t really revolve around SNSD…its GDA’s fault. And about the SNSD being the spotlight… why don’t you search for the answer yourself. *is lazy to explain* I dont even think you understood what I wrote since I was typing ina a hurry..bye bye sone.
Comment by Hyukkie92— December 15, 2010 #
NothingToSay got owned and has nothing to say now.
Comment by v— December 16, 2010 #
I LOVE YOU…
Comment by Donghae Lover— December 16, 2010 #
I DON’T HATE SNSD YET either.. LMAO…
Comment by Donghae Lover— December 16, 2010 #
can we not do this? seriously, if you people are honestly good fans to their individual groups, you would try not to dispute so much. they’re from the same company for pete’s sakes. don’t you think you’re just going to upset your own idol groups by doing this? i’m not saying to not voice your opinions, but can you just say it in an objective view as much as possible, as in opinion about the FACTS not the assumptions? don’t bash one another sheesh. i’m upset too about SJ not winning the GDA but it’s been a couple of months already. i like the idea of getting an apology from GDA, but dear fans, TRY TO THINK OF A BETTER IDEA THAN BASHING THE SH*T OUT OF EACH OTHERS’ GROUPS! They’re both likable groups in their own way so STOP IT. don’t just think about how you feel, THINK ABOUT OUR IDOL GROUPS AND HOW THEY WOULD FEEL IF THEY KNEW THEIR FANS ARE HAVING A BIG FIGHT BETWEEN ONE ANOTHER?! HUH?!
Comment by FiONA— March 15, 2011 #
=( dont know what to say.. it was so unfair..
Comment by Riecely— December 14, 2010 #
i dont hate snsd .. i hate the people behind GDA’s unfairness.. we can all see the evidences.. =(
Comment by Riecely— December 14, 2010 #
Im sick of this. stop saying that ELF are bashing SONES or SNSD. We are not. We didnt say SNSD doesnt deserve to win.
ELF shows many proof and evidence that indeed SJ was leading in the rank but the award gave it to another. We have proof thats why we DARE to say that GDA was unfair.
If SJ lost in a fair condition, I think ELF will accept it. But this is not the case for now, its unfair that’s why ELF are disappointed with the result.
Comment by eunhae-— December 14, 2010 #
Haahh…I don’t know what to say…
I mean…If SNSD won fair it’s fine to me, but..
how could it possibly happen to SUJU..People who have kind and pure heart,,
also in some fancam, I saw when the host is about to announce the winner of Daesang, Teukie actually looking at snsd and ready to clap his hands, but he suddenly turn off and sit. Do you think it suspicious? I thought Teukie was already knew the winner.
But..nah..I Can’t talk more since it’s just my opinion…
hm, sueing GDA could have impact to for SUJU and ELF..
But, SJ Market know what they have to do…
Comment by KibuMichelle— December 14, 2010 #
can you share the link of that fancam pls?
Comment by v— December 16, 2010 #
Hm wait…
do you mean the judge is on SNSD side?
I mean, they choose SNSD because they prefer them to win, or SM involved in this?
Comment by KibuMichelle— December 14, 2010 #
[...] 14 Dec those who don't know… Super Junior should have won the DaeSang of 2010 – uksujusid Source: HERE – Written by: 곧잉어 First of all, I like to make sure this is all writen by fan of Super Junior. The first and the only intention of this is asking appropriate apology and compensation to Golden Disk Awards 2010 according to some doubtful points brougth up about award standard, so hopefully there will not be any misunderstanding or unpleasant dispute … Read More [...]
Pingback by SJ-MARKET.. EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.. ~ GDA NOT LEGIT! (via Super Junior) « nuyblacksmile— December 14, 2010 #
In every fandom there is bound to be some immature spoil brat kid fans.
And whether or not you choose to believe every fandom definitely have this kind of fan its up to you . But it IS A FACT . Therefore if you are gonna leave the fandom so easily, then please DON’T even call yourself a fan. Because that is EVEN MORE DISGUSTING. BTW SONES also have very bad reputation as well so don’t go around saying ONLY ELFs have bad attitudes. (Actually ALL FANDOMS HAVE it isn’t about minor or major of them have its whether have you meet immature or mature fans.)
Either way i only want GDA to prove everything with evidences and fact . Cos ELFs spend so much money on it. I wouldn’t be satisfied if a proper explanation is not given. Its not that i want to sue them as well. If they CAN ACTUALLY come out with a proper explanation i am sure they wouldn’t have to sue GDA.
Yes of course i am afraid that SJ might have a bad reputation but if you think about it, why would asking for a proper explanation be wrong? If they CAN produce GOOD AND CLEAR explanation with EVIDENCE it would be good i will admit defeat AND WHOLEHEARTED CONGRATS SNSD but WHAT IF they can’t? Isn’t that suspicious?
P.S I AM NOT BASHING SNSD NOR SAYING THEY DON’T DESERVE IT, Because i believe ALL ARTIST in kpop worked EXTREMELY hard so they don’t deserve my bashing. (Of course unless they did something bad ..)
Comment by JUNN— December 14, 2010 #
we are trending #sjwinner on twitter!!! GO GO!!
Comment by lb— December 14, 2010 #
[...] komentar 【http://sup3rjunior.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/sj-market-explains-everything-gda-not-legit/】 K-ELF memiliki cukup bukti mengungkap ketidakadilan GDA, tapi SM telah menghapus banyak berita [...]
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to all ELF, let’s solve it calmly. The most important thing is, we know the true winner, right? It must be hard for SNSD, because they got the award that doesn’t belong to them.
Comment by nabilauriel— December 15, 2010 #
I hope you’re not bashing SNSD or literally saying the girls didn’t deserve or what . Everyone didn’t expect they would win, even SNSD themselves . In a fancam, Seohyun even mouthing Super Junior during the daesang announcement .
Comment by Nina— December 15, 2010 #
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Pingback by SNSD Vs SUJU من الاكثر مبيعات !!! « ANTIS ARAB SNSD— December 15, 2010 #
i just found out about this and was really surprised.
this is obviously unfair and GDA was suck and bias and
i wonder does the winner of the award knows about this
unfairness and how did they feel.thank you.
Comment by kyukyukyu— December 15, 2010 #
i cried when they didn’t win. but not because they lost and not because i’m a fan, and definitely not because i’m bitter. i’m really sad how SuJu managed to stay on top (with billions of ELFs around the globe supporting and putting too much effort)and yet they didn’t get what they deserved. moreover, the daesang award went to co-sment talent, SNSD. i just hope no gap will pop put of the two groups, they are both good. it’s just too sad to see disputes such as these, knowing how these matters to SuJu and to the ELFs (chul and teuk entering the army next year – as rumored. it’s not just an award – it’s a result of their hard work, passion for their craft, and love and support from ELFs. acceptance is the key, yes, but only if the truth speaks it. Super Junior is the best. we love you…
Comment by jktrip143— December 15, 2010 #
I just read the article about the Unfairness on GDA to Suju.. Before anything else, I want to salute all ELFs for being so intellectual at all times.. The proofs and evidences you provided were so credible, that whoever reads it will ask no question about it.. Thumbs up for that!
Moving on, just like everyone, it broke my heart when I found about this.. I feel sorry for Super Junior, it must have been a great shock to them.. I encourage you to continue the sue regarding GDA’s cheating tactics.. It’s your right and will always be yours.. With this enough evidence, you will be able to get atleast an apology from SMent and GDA organizers..
To all the ELFs out there, who are afraid to go against SMent and GDA, be brave enough to take the risk of exposing the truth.. Because if suju members are in your place, they would do the same.. Let the whole world know that they got nothin’ on ELFs..
Comment by kRz— December 17, 2010 #
Well, on Thu, Dec 9th. I was so sure that Suju would win. I even told my friend that. But when I went on allkpop and saw the result, i was shocked. I was surprise how snsd could win over Suju. I’m not saying that Snsd dont deserve to win but Suju has worked very hard for this album. leeteuk, eunhyuk and donghae even worked out to get the muscle body.!! They put a lot of work into 4jib. Some ELFs say let this go, I can understand them but I cant let go. ELFs all over the world had worked very hard for the Disk Award.
Also, ELFs dont bash Snsd, they just want GDA to reveal the real numbers of the vote since they all pay money to vote. That’s nothin’ wrong.
Comment by leechan— December 17, 2010 #
Im a Sones…but SUJU really deserve the award…but SOME Elf bashing SNSD…im not saying is ELF fault and i noe the SOME Sones are irritating…Are you guys should that you guys never bash SNSD at all? snsd forgot to thank their plastic surgeons during their speech. oops, wat a major left-out. imagine their husbands’ expressions when their babies turn out ntg like their mums. lol <—- Wrote by your fellow mature ELF..SUJU deserve the award….but SNSD turn up to be the winner …And Elf say that was an unfair treatment to SUJU and they wan justice that SUJU deserve….but problem is….that was not SNSD fault but GDA mistake…why so much ppl turn up to blame SNSD ? I dun get it …SME is also the factor that manipulated everything….If you watching SNSD vedio at youtube…you can find some ELF saying SNSD some kind of harsh word like im a ELF,i hate SNSD, SNSD are SLuts, Plastic generation,bitch ? wads that for ? i love all Kpop and surprisingly love SUJU and SNSD? if you are really and ELF , Support SUJU and advice SOME of ur fellow ELF bashing SNSD…and im here to apologize that SOME sones are irritating and cause many problem..Among the Sones, some of them are immature and put a harsh comment like SUJU deserve the award ? spit on them…sorry for that …100x apologize…
with respect
Comment by Richie— December 17, 2010 #
snsd forgot to thank their plastic surgeons during their speech. oops, wat a major left-out. imagine their husbands’ expressions when their babies turn out ntg like their mums. lol <—- Wrote by your fellow mature ELF..
I think she/he is a safer (SNSD-Antis) for sure. I'm not sure he/she ELFs but you must realize that SNSD have antis too..
I found someone that Antis SNSD bash SNSD and called themself as ELF… But I can do nothing to make someone ELFs hate/love snsd so don't judge all ELFs like that.. I like Taeyeon but I'm not Sone..
Just ignore/ didn't make a friend with ELFs bash/hate SNSD or Sone hate/bash SUJU.. Don't be friend with someone like that simple for me..
You should not apologize, cause we can do nothing about someone heart to like/hate..
Comment by Donghae Lover— December 18, 2010 #
look at this people!!!
http://iryeowookelf.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/info-golden-disk-awards-unbelievable-unacceptable-explanation/
Comment by spinner— December 17, 2010 #
Whatever. As a fan of Suju I’m all ready over it. And my KELF friends are also over it. Trying to present all this information would only lead to causing problems. I say get over it and move on.
Comment by Bri— December 20, 2010 #
WOW, ELF is sooo cool, they dun go around bashing people.Even the comments here dun directly attack SNSD unlike Sones,
i saw them in 2ne1,kara videos and they seriously piss me off…Even my friend, who is a Sone was f**king off with me when 2NE1 win the bias mnet award. and went on, saying that SNSD won GDA because its fair…
its kinda obvious that this is unfair already because GDA did not tell every1 how they calculate the result even after ELF asked for it…
SME is a unfair/bias company isnt it? they promote SNSD so much, but how about the other artist…they got other artist that are also very very talented but they are just stuck in the company????(sorry for all the whining) too piss off with SM and sones
Comment by zhiyao— December 20, 2010 #
blackjack is to be blame tooo you know…they brag like he**
Comment by gORJESS— February 28, 2011 #
【 #GDA Please give us a satisfactory explanation, publish all data, don’t fool us, & return justice to #SUJU . From(EMILY)(TAIWAN) #ELF 】
Comment by hyuk— December 21, 2010 #
we didnt want the award anymore (allthought uri Oppa were deserved to get it), its all boolshits now. all we need was an explanation, if those 3 evidence is true so why GDA do this to SUJU, it is so dissapointing, its a slap in a face for GDA
Comment by mia— December 23, 2010 #
There’s always next year right? let make next year as a present for lee tuk in army and kangin too,,,,okay…no need to argue. let just pray next year is SJ year..okay? Jiguemen SNSD, Apurodo SNSD, Yongwanhee SNSD….
Comment by gORJESS— January 1, 2011 #
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnSXyRYJth4
watch this…and you know that SNSD didnt expect it their self. Look at Taeyeon face. they are in their own world and was shock!
Comment by Gorjess— January 1, 2011 #
and even Seohyun the maknae says *if u look closely to her (she sit beside Taeyeon) ‘Super Junior’
Comment by Gorjess— January 1, 2011 #
We want to know the truth.Just explained what happened to GDA last year,please.The awards was unfair.
Comment by DJWW— February 26, 2011 #
#GDA Please give us a satisfactory explanation, publish all data, don’t fool us, & return justice to #SUJU . From(可儿)(CHINA) #ELF
Comment by 可儿— February 26, 2011 #
I feel so heart broken every time i see information like this. I DONT UNDERSTAND EITHER. All data points to and implicates that SUPER JUNIOR would win, I mean, the gaps were fairly big, and yet SNSD managed to snag it in. I have nothing against SNSD; I blame it on the company and the GDA. E.L.Fs should file a law suit on them. >:@ I’m serious. But then, SUPER JUNIOR wouldn’t be too happy that their fans are causing so much fuss over for them, even if they are worth it. AWWWW I wish I WISH WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER, OR GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF LEGIT REWARD OF SOME SORT T_____________________T I feel like crying =’(
Comment by FiONA— March 15, 2011 #
I guess I’m no longer a newbie ELF, so I have to figure this issue out. But I really don’t know which side is telling the truth. As with all people, both ELF and non-ELF, aware of the award results, I was completely shocked. I would really like to believe that GDA is organized fairly and that SME understands our shock and will come to prove this entire issue a big understanding. I would also really like to believe that fellow ELFs are not simply channelling their anger and exaggerating the award selection process. I don’t know which side to believe! I will 13elieve, when someone from SuJu, or SME, or GDA, delivers a satisfying explanation instead of throwing the issue away with a sloppy excuse and leaving ELFs to fume over it and then accusing ELFs of being…whatever they are always accusing us of being. I finish my rant of agony.
Comment by Cecila— March 23, 2011 #
其實我們有能力購買3個版本 GDA的事情都是個未知數 希望可以代購
Comment by 许靖佳— August 29, 2011 #
Reading through all these detailed info once again makes my heart aches. If SME really wants to promote SNSD this year, can’t they use a more better method. As in really promote and not take away the boys’ award and give it to them.
Yes I know SNSD is very successful, but all of us know that all the results shown in those votings and albums rates etc is telling us that SJ is the winner to the Daesang award! How can there be such an unfair thing happening in this world, and right in front of our eyes?!
It’s not the matter of who the award belongs to, it’s just that the award is the result of the boys’ hardwork!
And I always wonder why SME always keep treating SJ so badly. They are one of the most popular groups in their company, aren’t they?!
I really really hope this year’s GDA will be FAIR AND SQUARE!
Comment by iuhHA__— August 29, 2011 #
I guess, what we can do now, is to ensure that everything is fair for this year’s GDA. The reasons GDA has given us for last year’s GDA may be suspicious, but let’s just try and continue to support SJ by streaming their music live so as to push them to the top as well as buying their albums Version A and Version C.
Perhaps last year, there were some mistakes made unknowingly (although I don’t think so) and thus, GDA decided to shoot us in the back despite everything we’ve done to help SJ try and win. I’m not saying SJ doesn’t deserve to win when the evidence is there fair and square that they should win, but we should unite even closer for the next 2months and keep voting for them since this year’s GDA is held in December I suppose.
Of course, if the results of this year GDA’s are contradicted by the whatsoever research, we ELFs would definitely have a lot more to say, and a lot more evidence to hit back. And this time, I won’t be that objective anymore.
So here’s to Super Junior and ELFs, let’s go through this with them together, hwaiting! ^^
Comment by kyulicious.— September 15, 2011 #
if snsd win this year which mean it’s 2 years in a row
with this GDA has break their own rule
i just want to ask-so if like that can super junior claim GDA award last year? and at the same time get the third one?
it’s annoying how SM treat differently between snsd and sj
i believe sj and dbsk are the one who help snsd to go to all other countries
if u all realise sj hold china market which is continuously expanding with sj having this china market they are able to continue to grow
with super junior popularity in china itself it’s very difficult for snsd to go in…
i really hate how they have different budget between sj and snsd
a-cha mv dance version looks like they are recycling what they had previously from the a-cha mv
see snsd teaser new album how much they spend for all those clothes
Comment by sweet-eclaie— October 3, 2011 #