“After GOLDEN DISK AWARDS, Super Junior’s Private Situation (Absolutely True)”
December 11, 2010 at 6:58 AM | Posted in Donghae, Drama/Film/TV/CFs, ELF, English Subbed, Eunhyuk, Events/Concerts/Perfs., Fan Accounts, Heechul, Kyuhyun, Leeteuk, News/Rumors, Ryeowook, Shindong, Shiwon, Sungmin, Updates, Wonderboys, Yesung | 67 Comments转宝蓝阁，by 綺～ 原文是、：【SJ金唱片后的一些私下情况(后续)[绝对真实]，我现在发的这些东西,是有绝对的事实，我不会编那么多谎话来骗自家ELF，我认识了一个在SM学习的人，他跟我说的一些东西,我把他整理了一下，发这帖不是要掐架，只是想让更多人知道事实。】
What I’m saying now is the absolute truth. As an ELF myself, I will not weave so many lies to deceive other ELFs. A trainee at SM whom I got to know told me a few things, and I’ve arranged them. My purpose of releasing this is not to spark off fights, but to let everyone know the truth.
Qn: Were the SJ members beaten?
A: Be rest assured, the members were not beaten. However, the SJ members cried. Yesterday, a friend told me that Donghae got really furious. Donghae also got scolded by the manager for getting angry, because of the reason why he got angry. The manager is really unreasonable. They didn’t do anything wrong. Other members like Leeteuk, Eunhyuk, Donghae and Kyuhyun got scolded too.
(Reason was ELFs’ big reaction)Q: Regarding Yesung
Yesung is still running a fever.
He was replaced at the last minute.
(His digital Daesang award was changed at the last minute)From what I heard, he was put on a drip at the hospital. Because of his physical condition, he almost fainted and had difficulty getting on the car.
Q: Regarding the contracts (the contract they sign to participate in the event Golden Wave concert tonight.)
A: The members didn’t want to sign the contract (re-contract) at first, but was forced to do so in view of upcoming concerts.
(T/N: It could mean the re-contracting to stay in SM?)Q: Regarding the Daesang awards
A: The lights were shone on SJ, and Leeteuk even prepared himself. But when the daesang was announced, everyone was shocked. The immediate switch of focus over to SNSD, etc..was all a last minute change.Regarding yesterday’s awards, many other artists were also taken aback, and the managers comforted SJ.
But what was most unexpected was that even some artists supported SJ, including f(x) and SHINee.By the way, as some fans going to the shop that Yesung’s mother said Yesung is okay now, ELFs do not worry much !!
T/N: The original article was vague and we intepreted it as it seems. Some parts like the reason behind GDA changing the awards was also not stated. The portion about recontracting was unclear as well. We only translated what was given and believe it at your own risk.
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sigh, i always hate SM everytime. super junior is the most precious people in the world. but SM treated them so bad. please get out from their life!
yesung oppa, i know that your body, your heart and everything were so bad now, so hurt, painful. but we (ELFs) always beside you and super junior. believe that!
GDA this year, many controversy..
i dont care about that awards, i just loves my super junior, our super junior.
Comment by tsuki1010— December 11, 2010 #
GIRLS PLEASE LOOK AT THIS
SJ-Market prepare to sue about result of GDA
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/7e9ei1
HELP THEM!
Comment by tsuki1010— December 11, 2010 #
NO! girls listen, if you sue GDA the probability of SJ to win GDA again might not happen again, and because of our haste decision, SME will probably treat SJ A LOT WORST. i know most of you can’t do this, but please, let it slide. Everything happened for a reason. be patient. i know that the boys are also having a hard time as well, but if they can let this matter slide, why can’t we? why are we making such a big fuss about this? i know most of you will say because GDA is not legit and because we wanted to support our boys, but this isn’t the way. You are putting the boys in harm. All we can do now is let this slide, and work harder for 5th Jib. There’s always hope for our boys. Let’s be patient, and work harder next time. Shall we?
Comment by ZatyTalib— December 11, 2010 #
we don’t want their lousy trophy! WE WANT JUSTICE AND TRANSPARENCY. we didn’t do anything wrong, why should we be scared? ELFs are too nice all along. We can tolerate anything but our oppas’ tears and pain.
And stop talking to me about the not even existent 5th jib. Teuki and Chulli are going army nx yr, we don’t even noe if suju will continue to deliver a 5th album tgr. even if we do, history may repeat itself. WE WANT JUSTICE NOOOW
Comment by lb— December 12, 2010 #
I know it’s frustrating that they didn’t get the award. They were given the reward we all believe that is credited to them. Yes. I do agree that we only want transparency on the matter and I knew that K-ELFs will do this in legal process but what I’m worried about is the effect of the actions of the ELFs upon the boys. It would make things more complicated, I may say. Can’t we let it pass and move on and just support the boys more? After all SJ knew that we are with them always in good and bad times. ELFs has been judged as crazy- over protective -delusional fans, and this judgment, even though it’s all in the past and we do nothing wrong now is like a label that always been attached to ELFs which is in my opinion is not nice. We must show the other FCs that we have class and decent enough.
Comment by Lizzie— December 13, 2010 #
Lizzie..i agree with you and other elf who may have some worries if any act from KELF will affect the boys~!yes..Elf is being labelled with those words..but,for me..ELF is so special..it stands as EVERLASTING FRIEND..many fans are arguing over this issue and some of ELF and NON ELF said that elf who has a bad thought of SNSD is not a true ELF..for me..there is no such things..u know,everyone is not perfect..ELF consist of lot of people..who has different thought..like u and your friend..u are not perfect but your friend will fill the unperfection..this is how ELF works..some of us might get too emotional but some uf us still can face this calmly..because we are friend,we try to fill the gap between emotion and calm..there should be no criticism towards any of us..and about worries that they will be affected..well,they have suffered a lot and fans cannot bear it anymore..well,sme never listen to elf..when ELF and suju refused to accept another two members in suju,they still proceeded with it..even ELF has bought some of share in SME..they never care about ELF and Suju..what they did to geng?they want geng to come back..by delaying his case??change the judge? without us knowing..sme treats them so bad..well,our boys can act that nothing was actually happened..but..they are still human..they are tired but they cannot tell us how tired they are,they are sad because suju is not 13 anymore,but they still cannot express to us about how they feel..this is because of birocracy and about their company..sorry for my comment but just if continues to happen..it would be scarier..~!
Comment by syamimi— December 14, 2010 #
0_0 why are they doing this to Super Junior
I think that big part of SM profit come from artists such as Super Junior .. so why they are doing this to them .. they should be good to them .. I really do not understand SM !!!!
Comment by sooma_13— December 11, 2010 #
they r using money earned by suju to promote snsd n other artists. wat the hell they make our boys wear ss3 clothes for impt ceremony like GDA! omg i’m really pissed…
many k-elf posted on their twitters after GDA: don’t waste money buying albums, voting etc. just give us the boys’ bank accounts n we’ll put money directly in for them
Comment by lb— December 11, 2010 #
I think putting money in directly would be much better, because:
1. Those boys would get more money for their work
2. They could still do concerts and stuff because they could use all this money on their promotions/concerts/cds only
About the articel: I think it’s fishy that SUJU didn’t get the award…yeah, but don’T bash on SNDS, because those girls might have difficulties as well (which I don’t know)… What I think is that whatever is going on, we don’t really know. Be careful of rumors because once you believe them it’s harder to know the truth, but (!) because finding the truth is important take your time to think about whatever statements you get… Someday we might be able to fix the puzzel… and I think with the acctual developement it will be quite soon. There are many things going on and they will reveal themself sooner or later…(And I hope sooner).
Comment by nn— December 11, 2010 #
no wonder i feel like i have seen they performed with this outfit..hee..u r totally right..just give them money instead of voting and buying their album..regarding their clothes,i think if it is in my country,if an artist wear the same clothes for different event,it will cause so much criticism..i mean,artist should care for their appearance..but maybe in korea,they have other view or tradition..dont know…but nice comment from you~!
Comment by syamimi— December 11, 2010 #
I totally agree with you .. just give us the boys bank accounts and we will help them..
Comment by sooma_13— December 11, 2010 #
yupz .. snsd and SHINee wear a new outfit .. but our oppas ?? they wear SS3 outfit T~T ..
why SM treated them so bad >,< ..
i agree, just give us the boys bank accounts and we will put money directly in for them..
Comment by flamefishy— December 12, 2010 #
aigoo.dont understand~!but,just want to refresh the memory..the thing that happened to yesung also happened to geng and siwon last year during this award rite>~! the reason that cause geng to be apart from suju~!!this award has caused so much pain to suju but it is also the most precious award that they have to win~! i dont know what is sme doing to suju members but i know the truth will be revealed soon~!
only suju members know how is actually sme treat them for this long period~!!
Comment by syamimi— December 11, 2010 #
sorry,what’s wrong with siwon in GDA 2009?
Comment by dian— May 24, 2011 #
both hangeng and siwon were sick that day..they just come back from china..due to geng’s statement..they were denied of their right to medicine.this is because they have to perform for that award..!well,they went for the medical check up but the manager asked them to hurry and they cant finish the check up..
Comment by syamimi— May 24, 2011 #
oh my gosh. what in the world is SM doing? why do they treat SJ so bad? Our angels are so mistreated, haha maybe SM is jealous because SJ is so loved?? SuJu fighting! we will always support them no matter what.
Comment by Evelyn— December 11, 2010 #
i don’t know if this is right or wrong but i always have the feeling that sme doesn’t care a bit about suju.seriously they are one of the most successful artist in the company why can’t they treat them well.
Comment by rahma— December 11, 2010 #
Just remember that truth always prevails… I will always love super junior whatever might happen!!!!!!
Comment by Sujuoldaway77— December 11, 2010 #
agree..just wait the truth to be revealed soon..at that time,elf might hurt the most..and some of us will agree with geng and dbsk’s decision to leave the company~!
Comment by syamimi— December 11, 2010 #
[...] 转宝蓝阁，by 綺～ 原文是、：【SJ金唱片后的一些私下情况(后续)[绝对真实]，我现在发的这些东西,是有绝对的事实，我不会编那么多谎话来骗自家ELF，我认识了一个在SM学习的人，他跟我说的一些东西,我把他整理了一下，发这帖不是要掐架，只是想让更多人知道事实。】 What I’m saying now is the absolute truth. As an ELF myself, I will not weave so many lies to deceive other ELFs. A trainee at SM whom I got to know told me a few things, and I’ve arranged them. My purpose of releasing this is not to spark off fights, but to let everyone know the truth. Qn: Were the SJ members beaten … Read More [...]
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I dont know why SM favor SNSD? they are as not good as SuJu and not so popular around the world as SuJU. after reading this I think SJ and SNSD are not so close as SM just attempts to show us.
Comment by bj— December 11, 2010 #
i think SM plan is to make all groups from the company getting a daesang. next year is probably shineee.
Comment by MachiShupp— December 11, 2010 #
If SHINee get the daesang award, then you’re having right. *sigh*….
Comment by Monica— December 11, 2010 #
I agree, too. But this should not be the case at all! If this is SME’s plan then what makes of all the effort and hard work their artists put in one year just to aim for these kinds of awards?! It doesn’t have to be this way!
Comment by catchastar— December 11, 2010 #
i don’t think shinee will get daesang next year…big bang gonna have a HUGE COMEBACK…and there is HoMin
Comment by Miika.Blue— December 12, 2010 #
i think bcuz they (snsd) girls .. and they popular in Korea more than Suju .. >,< hmmppzz ..
but are SM dont know that Suju Popularity is around the world ..
not only in Korea *.* .. why SM treated Suju so bad ??
Comment by flamefishy— December 12, 2010 #
I do not really believe this articke actually.. Mayb some of it is true bt i dun think this is totally true.. *frowns*
Comment by Yuki— December 11, 2010 #
I don’t care about the award anymore… In ELF’s heart, SUJU WON. Let’s not bash/hate SNSD because of this, Okay? They worked hard too. Also, this is might not be true. I’m just looking forward to 5jib.
Comment by alwaysSUJU— December 11, 2010 #
yeah me too.. i dont believe what people describe. even i myself exaggerate when i am a bit upset.
Comment by MachiShupp— December 11, 2010 #
ONE WORD FOR SM – U BITCH, FUCK OFF!!!!!
Comment by sjlover— December 11, 2010 #
ELF’s love for suju are getting more n more !
we will protect Our beloved Boys rite ?
Comment by yaniteuk— December 11, 2010 #
argh…i know something was not right at the GD award…SUJU supposed to win that Daesang,not SNSD…look likes there some conspiracy there…
Comment by kelly— December 11, 2010 #
i don’t understand this article..
someone please tell me again
Comment by FaRaH— December 11, 2010 #
aigooo..i already force myself to forget that award, but then this article come out. but on gda day, there’s a moment i thought that sm is behind all of this. but if this news is true..SM is better go to hell and lock forever there hehehehe. sm don’t just take away daesang from sj but digital daesang too from yesung TT__TT
so cruel..
Comment by Shmily— December 11, 2010 #
what is the big reaction of the ELFs? WHat happened. O_O
Comment by trixia— December 11, 2010 #
SJ and SNSD are probably not that close.SM maybe wanted them to act like they are so that nothing would be mysterious/weird if SNSD took something that belonged to SuJu.The reason why SM favor SNSD so much maybe its because SNSD slept with him or something.This is normal actually in the KPop industry.Sleeping with CEOs and all that to get what they want and make themselves even more famous.Just self opinion though
Comment by Dee— December 11, 2010 #
I agree
Comment by bj— December 11, 2010 #
or maybe bcos SUNNY is LSM’s niece..-_-;
Comment by FaRaH— December 11, 2010 #
I never believed in that SM family shit…
Comment by Jenny— December 12, 2010 #
I dont like SNSD but you’re over the line here…
That’s a very rude accusation.
I’m sad when I hear ELF talks this way..
Comment by chira13— December 12, 2010 #
what are the possibilities, neh?
Comment by trixiaa— December 12, 2010 #
@lb
Agree!
not only clothes,but also their albums,or MV..SM really treated their albums so ridiculous!
Low budget to makes high income? *sigh makes me crazy to look at that.
yeah,,seems we needs a bank account for them,so they can make own management,hahaha *just my dream.
Comment by tsuki1010— December 11, 2010 #
OK, i think everyone is exagerating !
one question : why SUJU re-signed a contract with SM if they were treated so badly ? Why the photos on twitter with managers and even the CEO of SM ?, why Heechul’s message of gratitude towards the compagny few months ago ? and their relation with SNSD members doesn’t seem so fake for me.
I agree, GDA was fishy, everyone thought that SUJU would win, the members idem, but we should have guess that the award would be given to another group because SUJU won last year. That’s unfair i know but it’s politic. It’s degusting but it’s reality of the show business.
Now i’m afraid that SUJU would be considered like bad-losers if all these rumors continue. We have to lose with dignity even if it hurts!!
Comment by lilichan— December 11, 2010 #
One more thing : i understand that many of you are hurt but c’mon moderate your words : SNSD menbers are not sleeping with people of SM ( you remind me the articles of Taïwan few times ago, shame on you : my Wookie forgive ELF for their anger. Everyone please grow up and fast !!!
Comment by lilichan— December 11, 2010 #
actually I think that the thing about sleeping can be true, at least for few of them; it’s really posible in kpop; wookie maybe got angry, because it got somehow public? don’t know…
Suju are really not aprecciated in s.korea, sm doesn’t care about them I think, to me it looks like “you’re already popular co we don’t have to put too much effort in you, your looks etc.”
Comment by eunyong— December 11, 2010 #
@eunyoung – I agree with you! That is how it is now, I believe. Because Super Junior has been able to successfully leave their mark in SME already, SME is gonna ditch them and not put much hope or effort into helping the members out. It’s friggin’ cruel!
Comment by catchastar— December 11, 2010 #
I DON’t UNDERSTAND A SHIT!
would someone explain all of this? i don’t want to believe the false rumors. :-/
Comment by leeeii— December 11, 2010 #
of course super junior won the award but in order to promote snsd they pass the award to the girls, i’ts pure marketing guys. I guess suju members were so sorry in twitter and cyworld because of the sm mistake and not because they don’t won the GDA.
well that’s how i think…
Comment by Dani— December 11, 2010 #
http://sj-market.com/bbs/view.php?id=GDA&page=1&page_num=20&select_arrange=headnum&desc=&sn=on&ss=on&sc=on&keyword=&no=211&category= This will explain
Comment by anim— December 11, 2010 #
so, can i make a concluse if all of it happen because of SME??????
Comment by Princess Cheonsa— December 11, 2010 #
OMG… so Yesung would’ve gotten the an award, right???
But yeah, this article is weird. I’d prefer the one from http://sj-market.com/bbs/view.php?id=GDA&page=1&page_num=20&select_arrange=headnum&desc=&sn=on&ss=on&sc=on&keyword=&no=211&category=.
Comment by catchastar— December 11, 2010 #
go to hell GDA and Sment!! You should ashamed of your selff..
Poor Boys… always maltreated..
Comment by miLuvDuna— December 11, 2010 #
mmmmm…. let me share you exact same situation happened in 2009.
this reminds me of an Golden Bell awards in Taiwan. Vic zhou(zai zai- you guys may knows him, from F4) was highly expected to be winner best actor award. all of the celebrities were highly agreed with this. so, he is. but in the end right before announcement he found out it was not him but it was his junior who acted in drama together and got learned form him. that junior was son of famous actor in Mainland China who also acted together in drama. Vic(Zai zai) taught him and care for him like his own younger brother because it was his debut. but in the end he and all of his fans around the world, other celebrities got disappointed. he didn’t attend final party instead he did it with his fans who were came from all around the world to cheer on him for receiving award . i was really disappointed at that awards and other peoples too. because i was so sure that he’ll win this award. after that He promised to his fans that he’ll aim for more bigger things in the future.
SO! This time, SUPER JUNIOR (also Yesung) was exactly in same situation as him. !!! everyone knew that SUJU will win until last moment. but…. i agree with their statement that they’ll aim for more bigger things. maybe they shouldn’t compete in Korea but in the World. … you know they tried really hard for this moment but everything just got ruined in a last moment. next year their leader and careful hyung heechul will gone to army. what will happen to the rest of SJ. after they unite again they can compete in the world? but after that they’l go to the army one by one.
in one word it was their precious time. sure Eeteuk was crying. he might be feels awful right now. and now they got victims of SHOWBIZ, specially SM. poor boys, they’re so innocence, didn’t know that they’ll be treated this badly and being so good to the SM.
what is SHOWBIZ?? after all it’s still business. you know how business works, specially in KOREA. you can almost say there are no fair business. only who has connection and malice, will win in a business.
it’s too different from what we hears in lectures of business. cruel but this is actual surface of it.
Comment by khina— December 11, 2010 #
Man are you kidding us?? If SJ’s award was snatched away from them for something as dumb as that, Ima be PISSED and Im sure other Elfs would be too. SM and GDA = BULL. Give SJ the award they deserve. Sheesh. If the conspiracy is true, I hope they get sued, so they realize that you don’t mess with SJ and not suffer consequences. Junk is messed up.
Comment by Natalie— December 11, 2010 #
The lights were shone on SJ, and Leeteuk even prepared himself. But when the daesang was announced, everyone was shocked. The immediate switch of focus over to SNSD — is that real? that means that the lightman ( watever you call him) even know who win the award!!!!!
Comment by leechan— December 11, 2010 #
What does the author mean when she said that the manager is scolding Donghae and the other boys? Does she mean because Donghae defended the elfs and got scolded?
Comment by g— December 11, 2010 #
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Sme hide their face…that’s why many artist under them are getting out. Some trainee didn’t get to the surface even they train for many years. This is the real entertainment world. You have to be strong mentally & physically to be survive yet sometime you have to say no for your dignity and your future.
Comment by Cindy— December 12, 2010 #
They got scolded! arg that pisses me off, its hard to know what’s true though
Comment by Roxy— December 12, 2010 #
we may differ in our stand and opinion,but because we are elf,it leads us to this way..for those who want to release their anger,it is alrite and for those who want to be calm..it is also alrite..there is nothing wrong with that..people were born with different character,so,to have different argument is alrite..
every members of suju has different personality but because of suju,they unite..the same goes to ELF..people has different response to this matter but because of the differences,it shows how everyone love suju..but in different way..some of us think by suing GDA,is the best thing and appropriate thing to do..and some of us do not agree with this..some of us may see law is the best solution and the other think that if elf do that,suju might be affected!!this is just my personal opinion..remember geng and DBSK’s case is not still resolved yet?! for those who follow geng’s news,all of us know that sme did everything they can just to delay the result..money can buy anything..even judge can be bought..this is politic and business..
sometimes,it hurt just to think how much suju and elf suffer because of this award..because of this award,sme force geng and siwon to stop their treatment at hospital last year just to perform at this award..and that night,geng cannot bear it anymore..and he left..now,yesung and suju..ELF too has to suffer..suju is human and not machine..one day,if they cannot bear this anymore,they will explode too~!
Comment by syamimi— December 13, 2010 #
we are trending #sjwinner on twitter!!! GO GO!!
Comment by lb— December 14, 2010 #
Glad that JYJ and Hangeng had the courage to fight the in justice and get out of that company.. things might not be as smooth but at least they are free and they are able to become busy over the things that mattered the most to them;;
Comment by jenknight18— December 15, 2010 #
I agree~ but, other member love suju and elf…they don’t want elf disappointed.. I hope someday,they can get out and establish one group out of Sm but same members~
Comment by fira— December 15, 2010 #
hope your wish would come true..actually,i had the same thought before..maybe jyj could be a very good example..~! instead of being depressed there, they should receive a better treatment..~!!if it comes true,hope that geng could perform with them again~!
Comment by syamimi— December 17, 2010 #
Oppa~stand up…never give-up.. T.T
we always with you~
Comment by fira— December 15, 2010 #
OmG… I just read this post now… How could sm do that…. Then they could really do this again to make tvxq win the daesang this year, couldn’t they??? Farrrrrtttttt…. Daesang means nothing to them anymore…. Regardless of who win the trophy truthfully, they could change it with money…..
Farrrrrrtttttt… How could they do that??? Snsd sales have never surpassed suju’s!!!!! Not even a half!!!!
Comment by meiii— September 19, 2011 #
initially i don’t really like snsd, eventhough how cute and adorable they are, i just can’t lay my eyes on them or even listen to their songs. but i consider it as an unreasonable act because i dont have any clear reason why i should hate them. but then came this gda issues, and how much this hurt super junior, i’ve found a reason to hate them.
snsd should feel embarrassed when the accepted the award. some people might find them innocent, as this was decided by the juries (who one of them is a fan of snsd- i got this from an unsatisfied ELF). i bet all the people in entertainment business have predicted that the winner should be super junior. THEY DESERVE IT considering their hard works – which only ELF could see it.
I HATE SNSD. (especially that no-brain tiffany who doesn’t know how to close her mouth, which you can find out more on youtube)
shame on you, snsd, being acknowledged for something that you don’t do, and you don’t deserve!
Comment by mapuchah— November 2, 2011 #